H.R.45 New Federal Anti-gun legislation has arrived!

I just picked this up from over at WarRifles.
It sure as hell didn't take them long did it. No more private sales and a renewable license for everthing.
Just click on "GPO PDF display" to download in PDF format. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45:

I'll wager it doesn't get out of committee... Scary stuff in there, but I'll bet it's the sort of nonsense that is introduced by a legislator trying to look "tough" on crime... I'm gonna keep an eye on it though, and ask my congresscritters not to support it...

Have to be licensed to own a firearm?! BULLS*^T! All I can say is GTH sorry POS, and try to enforce this one.

Just say no, if every gun owner stood up and said no then what would they do...nothing.

The sponsors of this bill should be getting calls around the hour from angry gun owners in every state, phones jammed with calls - emails jamming up their systems.

Unless we show them our numbers, our dedication - they will presume to do as they please, treating us as subjects and not citizens.

Just say no, if every gun owner stood up and said no then what would they do...nothing.

The sponsors of this bill should be getting calls around the hour from angry gun owners in every state, phones jammed with calls - emails jamming up their systems.

Unless we show them our numbers, our dedication - they will presume to do as they please, treating us as subjects and not citizens.
Damn straight! It worked when they tried to shove that immigration bill down our throats. Just to be heard, I`m on the phone tomorrow.

I won't bother to read the proposed bill. My bet is you'll see a number of rediculess bills come forward and the end result will be the compromise of "reasonable restrictions". The "reasonable restrictions" will fuck you none the less.

BTW all of you will be greatfull in the end.


Scott

Mark my words-

The junior comgressmen will author the rediculess bills and the seniors will sort it all out as though they are on your side and doing you a favor. You'll see.

Scott

It's spelled ridiculous not rediculess. Unless you are vying for a position in the Dirt County Milisha that is...

HR 45 will never come to be law...it is too draconian as written.


Conservative and rural dems know that voting for such BS would cost them their seats.

What they need to realize is that the fear of government has been overtaken by the fear of losing what rights we have left. For me anyway, the balance has shifted to a point of having no respect for their supposed authority, which they have abused & are in need of forfeiting to a party (Constitutional), that remembers what governments function is supposed to be. You`re probably right Ismurphy, but when it comes to abiding to anymore infringements, I just don`t give a shit & I want them to know it.

What they need is to realize is that the fear of government has been overtaken by the fear of losing what rights we have left. For me anyway, the balance has shifted to a point of having no respect for their supposed authority, which they have abused & are in need of forfeiting to a party (Constitutional), that remembers what governments function is supposed to be. You probably right Ismurphy, but when it comes to abiding to anymore infringements, I just don`t give a shit & I want them to know it.


That is dead nuts on - and where I am at now.

I am at a point where the fear of what my government, and one of their "agencies" will do to me, is now over ridden by pure anger over the trampling of my rights. I am just so damn sick of it I am done - no more, no compromise, no bullshit.

I know I am not alone.

Damn right you are not alone. This is all I've been preaching lately. What are they going to do if we start getting nose to nose with them and saying "NO". It's worked for the fringe groups, why not us.

Rick

You`re definately not alone Mandaree, none of us are. I`ve been doing everything I can to stir the pot in my neck of the woods, as I`m sure others are. Some righteous anger is what`s needed now more than ever. -P.S.- I agree w/ the just say no tactic, their intimidation factor is waning.

It's spelled ridiculous not rediculess. Unless you are vying for a position in the Dirt County Milisha that is...

Asshole... Is that spelled right?

Asshole... Is that spelled right?

Odd, I don't recall addressing you.

Odd I don't recall anyone asking for a spelling lesson...

Odd I don't recall anyone asking for a spelling lesson...

Odd, I don't recall presenting it as a spelling lesson.

It's spelled ridiculous not rediculess. Unless you are vying for a position in the Dirt County Milisha that is...

Odd, what do you call this (besides insulting)?

Odd, what do you call this (besides insulting)?

Cheeky.

Cheeky.

Odd, as you are not his teacher, parent or employer it seems that the term Asshole is both correct and spot on.

Odd, as you are not his teacher, parent or employer it seems that the term Asshole is both correct and spot on.

Odd as you are none of those in my case either, the term could equally apply to you.

Odd, I never have tried to come off as anything but. However, correcting spelling falls into the scope of those three general catagories. Teaching manners is the job of everyone you come into contact with...

It will never pass. Scott is right! It was just introduced to get a compromise.

Odd, I never have tried to come off as anything but. However, correcting spelling falls into the scope of those three general catagories. Teaching manners is the job of everyone you come into contact with...

Strange, I always took the teaching of manners to fall under one of those three headings. Now do you have a point with all this crap that didn't even involve you? Because this is my weekend and I have nothing else to do but go back and forth with you.

Strange, I always took the teaching of manners to fall under one of those three headings.

And there in lies one of the many issues this country faces

Now do you have a point with all this crap that didn't even involve you?

I believe I stated the point in my first post. Let me see if I can remember it...Ah yes. You are an ASSHOLE.

Because this is my weekend and I have nothing else to do but go back and forth with you.

Wish I could, but the flag is up and it is time to turn 2. Sad you having nothing better to do with your "weekend"...

Ahh well I think your an asshole too, so we are even. Have a good night.

Ahh well I think your...

You're (contraction of you are) not Your (possessive pronoun)

an asshole too, so we are even.

Me an Asshole? YES. We are Even? HARDLY!

Have a good night.

okay who is the author..we have to make his life a living hell to set an example for the other leftist scum bags..
we need to be all over this mother fer and make it public for the others to see


who is the author? I want his balls

okay who is the author..we have to make his life a living hell to set an example for the other leftist scum bags..
we need to be all over this mother fer and make it public for the others to see


who is the author? I want his balls

Alrighty then -

Bobby L. Rush

Illinois-1st, Democrat
2416 Rayburn HOB
Washington, DC 20515-1301
Phone: (202) 225-4372

The Marxist fanatics in the MSM will instigate these new "common sense gun safety" laws just as they did in getting the undocumented Kenyan elected..........they will try to instill fear (loss of their seat) in any senator or congressmen (of either party, regardless of NRA rating) who would oppose said legislation by using their phony polls, selecting "experts" that are ideologically hand picked by them to give 15 second sound bites on the news and talking head programs to instill fear and terror , and a sense of "urgency to act "regarding banning these firearms in the minds of the people who have been shown to be so easily manipulated by their particular style of "journalism".

H.R 45 - "Blair Holt Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009"

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This bill is sponsered by IL Rep Bobby Rush

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45:

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE; TABLE OF CONTENTS.

(a) Short Title- This Act may be cited as `Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009'.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45:

OKay you black Marxist SOB I will fax, mail , phone email and advertise in his local papers on how much of a Marxist scumbag and an enemy of the people you are... arent you the same SOB screeming for a Black Sen. to fill Obammys spot? arent you the same SOB screemin "racism" when they didnt want to seat blogovich's pick for the sen.

Okay you SOB
I will hit your office twice a day with just how much of a scumbag you are!! and
im going on the G Gordon Liddy show to expose him too!!

http://liddyshow.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=3&zenid=5e63899c5a119dee19ebd902180dd461

Thanks for the info Cracker60, just made the call.

http://gunowners.org/activism.htm

With the #1 slot filled with a Chicago Crook, They (DEM'S) will be trying to repay all of the $10.00 contributors that HOUSEIN fooled with his NON answers and no thought, Xcept for their 1940's fallback plans that still havent worked in 60 years!!!!!!!!!!!!THANK YOU WORTHLESS MEDIA

http://gunowners.org/activism.htm
E-mailed GOA as well, thanks Tactius. They seemed to like the letter idea, will post their reply.

This guy has some balls.I'm sick of these leftwing commies trying to infringe on our second admendment.These are the same kinda people that turned this country into a sewer.I say the hell with them.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45:


If it's been posted already sorry for that!


If not it's something that you should read, It's not going to be fun if this thing passes!!! :skull_cro

Read the text of this bill. It establishes requirements for all gun owners to obtain a license from the Federal Government to the cost of $25, I'm not sure if it's a per gun fee or per person. What this does is involve the federal government into the process of obtaining a firearm. That enables the government to deny a license for whatever reason they may deem. Also it establishes a database of gun owners and the guns that they own.

Licensing is a precursor to restriction & inevitably, confiscation.

Been there, seen it & got the damn' T shirt too.

Just say no.

Illegal under CURRENT laws. GCA of 68 specifically prohibits this nonsense.

I guess if they want civil unrest this would be the way to bring it on. Gun sales have been through the roof since Marxist Obama has been elected.

Anyone know what happened to the bill being introduced by some Republicans, during the summer, that would ban future sale of AK's, SK's, other EBR's but allow Mini-14's, and virtually all other hunting guns? That seems like a scarey compromise.

David

I know some people`s opinions of gun orgs is pretty low. One of the few I think that are worth supporting is GOA. They are continually among the only ones who take on the fights that others let pass. They are also the 2nd largest in the nation. I`ve been corresponding through e-mails encouraging them to take a more offensive role. So far they seem receptive to ideas & genuine in their efforts. A flood of support for a call to offensive action I think would be more effective than waiting in the trenches for more attacks from the enemy. I really think it would better unify our efforts & send a warning that we`re ready for a fight.

That's the SIXTH thread started on the exact same subject now merged with the original.

Using the search function prior to posting DOES work........

I agree Doc 100%. In the meantime here`s the pos`s contact info from GOA if anyone wants to send him a little message. May not do much but it sure as heck doesn`t hurt. http://capwiz.com/gunowners/mail/?id=212&lvl=C&chamber=H

If interested in your 2d amendment rights, you need to read the Bill. This is more government control and another effort to head us down the path of socialism. Good luck on being able to defend yourself in the future. You will probably be prosecuted if you shoot someone breaking into your home. I imagine this legislation will be passed in the middle of the night! I don't think we will recognize this country in the next 4 years. We are going to look
like the inept and socialist Western Europe.

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson

Hold your nose... this one really stinks!
Here is the first bill introduced by the Democrat controlled house that mandates licensing for all firearms owners...

You will have to carry a photo ID firearms license.
A training class is required to be licensed.
Disclosure of your storage method is required for license.
A thumb print is required for license.
Every sale recorded by the federal government.
If you move, and don't tell the Attorney General within 60 days, you are a criminal.
If a firearm is stolen and you don't report it, you are a criminal.
There will be no grandfathered firearms. If you do not obtain a license and report every firearm you currently own, you are a criminal.
There will be a license fee and a fee for the "services" provided at purchase time.
Licenses must be renewed every 5 years.

This is already in process. It's H.R. 45, Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009.

Here's what I sent my representative.

Dear Representative:

I am writing to bring to your attention my concerns regarding H.R. 45, Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009.
H.R. 45 would require a license for handguns and semiautomatics, including those currently possessed.

Representative, all firearms purchases from federally licensed dealers (FFLs) currently require a background check and completion of Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) form 4437. In addition, all handgun purchases require a handgun permit issued by a citizen's Chief Law Enforcement Officer (CLEO). This in itself requires a waiting period and a thorough background check. These background checks include mental health background checks through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS). The current system is appropriate and necessary, and no further licensing is required, particularly for older firearms, such as the .22 squirrel rifle I inherited from my deceased great-uncle when I was a child.

H.R. 45 requires the applicant to be thumbprinted and sign a certification that, effectively, the firearm will not be kept in a place where it would be available for the defense of the gun owner's family.

Fingerprinting is unnecessary, because BATFE will already have a record of a citizen's personal information due to the background check and form 4437. In addition, the Second Amendment gives "the people" of America the right to keep and bear arms, and the Government should not prohibit law-abiding citizens from being able to use firearms in their own homes to defend themselves and their families.


The applicant must also make available ALL of his psychiatric records, pass an exam, and pay a fee of up to $25.

Many United States citizens are, or have been, under medical treatment for various psychiatric conditions, such as depression or anxiety. This does not mean they are unfit to safely and legally possess a firearm. Both the CLEO handgun permit application and BATFE form 4437 specifically check for whether an applicant has ever been adjudicated mentally defective or been committed to a mental institution. All involuntary mental institution commitments (in which a person is medically determined to be a danger to himself or to others) result in a person being listed with NICS, and thus those individuals automatically fail the current background checks and cannot purchase firearms . This is as it should be, and the current system is already adequate to prevent these people from purchasing firearms. No further disclosure of confidential, psychiatric records is necessary.

The license may be renewed after five years and may be revoked.

Once a person has passed the necessary background checks, why should their right to keep their firearms be jeopardized, and why should they have to pay additional money to maintain those firearms? This amounts to an unfair, additional tax, and citizens already pay sales tax on firearms when they purchase them.

Private sales would be outlawed, and reports to the attorney general of all transactions would be required, even when, as the bill allows, the AG determines that a state licensing system is sufficiently draconian to substitute for the federal license. With virtually no exceptions, ALL firearms transactions (involving semi-autos, handguns, long guns, etc.) would be subject to a Brady check.

Firearms sales are, again, already subject to a thorough and appropriate background check.

In addition, the bill would make it unlawful in nearly all cases to keep any loaded firearm for self-defense.

Again, this directly conflicts with the Second Amendment, which states that the rights of the people to keep and bear arms "shall not be infringed."

A variety of "crimes by omission" (such as failure to report certain things) would be created. Criminal penalties of up to ten years and almost unlimited regulatory and inspection authority would be established.

This Bill would effectively treat law-abiding citizens like criminals. Criminals are the ones upon whom the full regulatory force of the United States Government should fall, not law-abiding citizens.

Representative, it is important to me to inform you of my feelings regarding H.R. 45. I ask for your kind attention and consideration in this matter. As an active member of my church and community, and as a member of the National Rifle Association, I am counting upon you to stand up for the rights of decent, law-abiding citizens.

Thank you kindly for your time.


Sincerely Yours,

Sign your name,

This is similar to what people in Illinois are forced to do NOW.

No surprise that these bribery/kickback/quid pro quo artists in D.C. feel that Illinois and California are the "reasonable & common sense" models for the rest of the nation.

Feel like you are quickly becoming a part of a new class of criminals. Kinda like what it meant when a few folks back when "pledged their lives and sacred honor."

Everybody needs to get and read the "The Founders Second Amendment" by Stephan Holbrook. It's Boston 1775 all over again.

I haven't read the bill nor is there reason to nor is there reason to respond. The end has begun and it's over, just a matter of time now. I screamed and yelled and fell on deaf ears. This is a systematic approach to confiscation. Elections have consequences, now pay the price dumb asses, you got what you aked for.


What now all the sudden you want to get off your dead beat asses??????????????????


Scott

BTW I already have a carry permitt and the only difference will be that you will have to licence EVERY firearm you own and pay a stamp tax on each one, oh yea and you guys that have 30 to 50 pieces will pay out the fucking ass. I sold my collection over the last 6 months except for what I need to fight with, just so you know I put my money where my mouth is. You guys are gonna get so screwed.


Scott

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47272&page=2&pp=35

Might want to look here too, half this thread everyone says "odd and your and asshole" but the point is this is nothing new.

You'll see more and more of this bullshit and it will get passed. As you know we now have NO power in congress. If not you then your buddy screwd the pooch. BTW you need to say thank you for the good fuckin you're gonna get.

Scott

BTW there was about 2 dozen of us that wanted to get organized about 4 months ago and we couldn't get any of you fat asses off the fuckin couch. Do you get the feeling I'm disgusted?????????? Just short of saying F-YOU.


Scott

One more thing-

IT DOESNT MATTER IF IT'S CONSTITUTIONAL OR NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PASS THE LAW AND THEN YOU SPEND ALL YOUR RESOURCES FIGHTING IT FOR YEARS IN THE COURTS. YOU HAVEN'T FIGURED THAT OUT YET????????????????????????????????????????


SCOTT

It's been introduced by a quack from Ill. has no co-sponsors at all and was
sent to committee on jan 6 and hasn't been heard from since. The way it reads
it is an amendment to the brady bill and would lose on a supreme court challenge. True they are never going to quit trying but this doesn't look like it's
going anywhere.

SEVEN THREADS :rolleyes:

Do a search dammit.

Any more go in the trash.

The "reasonable restrictions" will fuck you none the less.


Scott


Ah yes .. the new Soviet proaganda Buzz term...... "Reasonable Restrictions"

is that not an OXYMORON?

How many have made it through committee and are waiting to be attatched to the spending bill. I don't know the answer do you?


Scott










It's been introduced by a quack from Ill. has no co-sponsors at all and was
sent to committee on jan 6 and hasn't been heard from since. The way it reads
it is an amendment to the brady bill and would lose on a supreme court challenge. True they are never going to quit trying but this doesn't look like it's
going anywhere.

Have to be licensed to own a firearm?! BULLS*^T! All I can say is GTH sorry POS, and try to enforce this one.

+1, Commie Liberals are smoking crack again! No chance of that violation of our rights EVER seeing daylight.

+1, Commie Liberals are smoking crack again! No chance of that violation of our rights EVER seeing daylight.

Please tell me exactly what are YOU going to do in opposition if they do pass a law????????????????????????????????????????????


Scott

BTW there was about 2 dozen of us that wanted to get organized about 4 months ago and we couldn't get any of you fat asses off the fuckin couch. Do you get the feeling I'm disgusted?????????? Just short of saying F-YOU.


Scott

f*ck it bro, let it burn. Let it all f*cking burn. Detroit, LA, DC, NYC... they'll be razed, rivers chocked with floaters, FEMA camps full of malaria and smallpox... you and i and Mandy and Doc and other good ol' boys here will be sipping 'shine with our Winchesters in our laps watching the cities smoulder.

the chips will fall, Atlas, just shrug.

introduced on 1/6, referred to judiciary comittee. NO COSPONSORS!!! nothing has friggin arrived. this will probably die in comittee. some moron introduces something like this every year. it goes nowhere. don't start wetting 'em until this actually makes it to the house.
BTW-there's talk in legal circles that heller gives us injunction and TRO rights to block enforcement of anything constitutionally questionable while we fight it in court.

introduced on 1/6, referred to judiciary comittee. NO COSPONSORS!!! nothing has friggin arrived. this will probably die in comittee. some moron introduces something like this every year. it goes nowhere. don't start wetting 'em until this actually makes it to the house.
BTW-there's talk in legal circles that heller gives us injunction and TRO rights to block enforcement of anything constitutionally questionable while we fight it in court.

I see O getting frustrated and his cabinet is a joke and his bill is a mess and his big plans are not so sure right now so we'll see. I do think something will come through the back door though.

Scott

BTW congress knows they are pushing thier luck with us right now so maybe they won't try just yet or maybe they will, I don't know.

Scott

DO NOT COMPLY!

So my name is Jef Fulton, it's what everyone calls me who knows me. But if I resurrect the JJ Fulton Blues Band, my stage name, (and it is a felony to carry a loaded gun into a bar unless you are LEO) I now have to list JJ Fulton as an "alias" to maintain my carry permit and C & R license? What about "Bascot", my medieval internet handle? Or JJShredd, an internet handle on a different musical internet site? Or JJSHredder, on yet another internet musical site? That's just crazy. On the internet it can get crazy on different forums, so I use different handles (but the same e-mail address) to keep the catagories seperate. What about buddies I played with 20 years ago, Johnny Lightning, JT Thunder and JJ "Fulltone" Fulton? Or when I was the kid in the band and they called me "Fro", because of my curly hair, or simply "The Kid". That's eight "aliases" as appropriate right now as cow farts causing global warming. Who thinks up this s**t anyway?

SEVEN THREADS :rolleyes:

Do a search dammit.

Any more go in the trash.
bless you sir! my foil supply is dangerously low.

Here they come, ready or not. Feel the water getting warmer?

Are you ready for the House Bill titled 'HR 45, Blair Holt Licensing and Record Act of 2009'. It will make it illegal to own a firearm unless it is registered with the database in Washington D.C. As a gun owner you will have to be finger printed, you will be required to provide your DL#, SS#, you must maintain a valid address at all times, submit to mental and physical health records being put on file, you will also be required to file any address changes and any ownership changes even if a private sale. Each update will cost $25 and if you fail to comply you will lose your right to own firearms. This bill and its language mirror almost completely one defeated last year in the House of Representatives by soon to be Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. Will we the citizenry be as lucky this time?

Thread # 3 or 4 on this. Try a search first. http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47272 - & this bill is not the same as we have now. From GOA - HR 45 May be More Troubling Than the Average Anti-gun Bill
HR 45 May be More Troubling Than the Average Anti-gun Bill
-- Legislation may reflect Obama’s thinking


by Mike Hammond


Those of you who regularly peruse the GOA website know that there are dozens of anti-gun abominations which are introduced as legislation in the Senate and House each Congress. These include, particularly, national gun licensing and broad gun bans.


GOA provides a summary of these bills for the benefit of our members and friends. But we do not focus on most of these bills because they are so extreme that they have no chance of passage. They are cynically introduced so that the Brady Campaign can raise money by threatening anti-gun measures it could never pass.


But the first anti-gun bill of the 111th Congress -– Chicago Congressman Bobby Rush’s H.R. 45 –- has caught the attention of many in the Second Amendment community as something we need to be worried about.


This is because of the extremity of the bill:


* H.R. 45 would require a federal license for all handguns and semiautomatics, including those you currently possess; and


* It would require handgun and semi-auto owners to be thumbprinted at the police station and to sign a certificate that, effectively, the firearm will not be kept in a place where it would be available for the defense of the gun owner’s family.


Pretty scary, huh? But, while this despotic nuttiness makes you wonder why a congressman from the Murder Capital of the Midwest would think that it would help to make the residents of New Hampshire, Alaska, and Wyoming comply with his blood-soaked city’s anti-gun laws, there have been other bills which are just as unconstitutional.


Rather, what makes H.R. 45 troubling is its sponsor and its timing.


Its sponsor is Congressman Bobby Rush –- a scion of the same super-corrupt Chicago political machine that produced disgraced Governor Rod Blagojevich and President Barack Obama.


And as for its timing, it was introduced during the confirmation of Attorney General nominee Eric Holder -- the man who tried exploit the Columbine tragedy in order to pass gun licensing as Deputy Attorney General in the Clinton administration.


And make no mistake about it: Licensing is only a way-station to discouraging, arresting, or humiliating gun owners and outlawing guns. Under H.R. 45, for example, the applicant must also make available ALL of his psychiatric records, pass an exam, and pay a fee.


So... are you a veteran who has ever consulted a psychologist or psychiatrist? Guess what? The FBI would soon be examining every confidential statement you have ever made during those consultations.


Private sales of handguns and semi-autos would be outlawed, and reports to the attorney general of all transactions would be required, even when -- as the bill allows -- the AG determines that a state licensing system is sufficiently draconian to substitute for the federal license.


But, you may be thinking, “I’m just a hunter with a deer rifle... surely, none of this is relevant to me”?


Then you should know that, with virtually no exceptions, ALL firearms transactions (including person-to-person private sales of long guns, hunting rifles, shotguns, etc.) would be subject to the same paperwork hassles that are required when buying from a dealer.


In addition, the bill would make it unlawful in virtually all cases to keep any loaded firearm for self-defense. A variety of “crimes by omission” (such as failure to report certain things to the government) would be created.


Criminal penalties of up to ten years and virtually unlimited regulatory and inspection authority would be established.


Combined with the Ammunition Accountability effort to outlaw ammunition in numerous states, this two-pronged attack would soon make gun ownership a thing of the past.


Barack Obama was fond of saying during the campaign that he supported the Second Amendment. And we read of gun buyers who are flocking -– while it is still legal -– to purchase firearms, but who concede that they believed Obama’s assurances and voted for him.


But we may soon see a more horrific, nastier side of Barack Obama... and a capacity to go after his political enemies. And we have to assume that he will view gun owners as just about the most important of those enemies.


© 2008 by Gun Owners of America
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The information contained herein may be disseminated for non-commercial purposes as long as credit is given to GOA.

:laugh_sma :laugh_sma :laugh_sma :laugh_sma
actually counting my shot at our Veneral (damn I wish we had spell check) Mike of the English this would make number 8. Shortly to be moved with the other seven.......never to be seen again.... :skull:

NI

I lost count, 3-4 was a conservative guess.

Sorry guys. Glad you're on top of all this. I just got so furious over this. There isn't words or symbols I can hit on this keyboard.

Salright, the gun crowd is pretty edgy lately(everywhere). From the sounds of it this abortion won`t make it anywhere(no sponsors). Keep an eye on it though.

I lost all my guns in a freak boating accident.... :cool_smal


oh well
please invite your self to my home to have a look...in fact lets take a picture ...stand by for the FLASH :skull:

I converted to Buddism, I detest tools of death. Peace brother.

Speaking for Buddhists, that statement is not entirely true.

To not defend yourself, is a greater "crime" than to kill another.

Peace.

:laugh_sma :laugh_sma :laugh_sma :laugh_sma
actually counting my shot at our Veneral (damn I wish we had spell check) Mike of the English this would make number 8. Shortly to be moved with the other seven.......never to be seen again.... :skull:

NI

Eleven with those I've thrown in the trash over the past few days. :rolleyes:

I'll use this one as a bump.

they had to post a sticky over at calguns to prevent any further posting of this "breaking news"!
it's sad to see goa lending credence to this hysterical bs. the very same little f/tard introduced the very same bill last year.

Check it out. This isn't going anywhere. Who would align themselves with this asshole. He even dislikes Obama because he's only half black. And that isnt all of it. :wink_smal
www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1198

thx kj, i knew he was ex bpp but he's really more of a pos than i ever imagined. and you are 100% correct, he won't be making many friends in congress.
BTW-good to see ya back around. mand and the doc have been making cameos lately.

Thanks motorhead. If you ever wondered who's who in the Left Wing click on the VIEW LIST OF ALL INDIVIDUALS above Bobby Rush's name. Very interesting how this country is to shit and the people behind it.

bless you sir! my foil supply is dangerously low.




lmfao

My statement is simple...if you aren't, already, a current member of the NRA, join NOW! Our joint power is ALL we have that can stand up to this bullshit!

I AM the NRA! Are YOU?

NRA is almost useless, ask Olofson! :rofl_smal

There is a study that showed people who correct others spelling do it to make up for thier own lack of intellect. - sorry to get off topic but Libertardian gets on my last nerve.

Or it could be because the corrector is astounded that Americans who have access to the best eduction system in the world could still be illiterate.

My Cuban wife came across the Rio Grande illegally and without a cent, and she now has a masters degree in engineering and an $80,000 per year job, and she's continually astounded at how Americans squander the jewels of education given us for free. She speaks English better than most people born here.

Me, I dropped out of college to write software back in the 80's when software designers were getting $6 per hour to save companies millions, so I could ride the dot-com boom to my current position as a database consultant with the D.O.D. I don't regret my choices, but she's a hell of a lot smarter than I am. Never could figure out why she married me ...