Bolt hold open mags on sale

http://ammoman.com/index.htm - go to magazines link

I got this advertisement in my email from Ammoman.com. I have never seen these bolt hold open mags before and thought you guys might appreciate a link to it. Let me know if this was helpful.


LIKE NEW AK MAGS - 30 ROUNDERS

MADE IN YUGOSLAVIA
THESE ARE THE ONLY MAGS WITH THE LAST ROUND BOLT HOLD OPEN

BLUED STEEL AND THEY LOOK AND WORK GREAT

LIMITED QUANTITY - FREE SHIPPING
100% MONEY BACK GUARANTEE

THIS PRICE WILL GO UP SOON

http://www.ammoman.com/MAGAZINES.htm
$150 for 10 mags shipped? "like new"
hmmm... thats not bad and ive been looking for more BHO's
but im swamped financially right now so dont everyone go buying them all up, ya hear?? ::shakes fist::

good post nymo

JUST looked at the pictures and they dont look like the BHO's i have. i have circle and triangle witness hole mags
and the mags in the pics (3rd and 4th pics, the first 2 are euro right?) are DEFINATELY different. one of them in the pic is clearly NOT a BHO.
i want to call them chinese
http://www.ammoman.com/images4/AKMAG-BLUE-4.jpg
might just be another file photo, but id be pissed if i payed for yugos and got whatever those were

Some one might want to correct me, but the first two pics are warsaw pact (Euro) ribbed mags. The third pic is a dream load of AK mags of some sort, but fourth pic is of chinese ribless mags, not Yugo. I have purchased many mags and had to learn the identy of all the weird types of AK mags. If I ordered a large pile of mags that were supposed to be New Yugo bolt hold open mags and got chinese mags instead, I would be very unhappy. Chicom mags are not bad mags, just not as advertised. :(

I saw these mags advertised someplace else, as Yugo BHO, but the backs of them looked chinese. I can't remember where, but they were even cheaper, a 10 pack for 100.oo or so.

anybody recieved em yet? I would buy soem if they were indeed yugo

I thought about getting a few! Then I rememberd that at the range you are required to remove the mag and still have the bolt open!!
Cheers
Doc :angel1:

Hey guys, I don't understand something... What's the advantage of having a BHO feature on the AK?

I mean, as soon as you drop the empty mag, the bolt is going to close again anyway, right? You're still going to have to cycle the action to chamber that first round in the next mag.

It's not like an AR, where you the bolt stays open even after you drop the mag, and then you close it with the bolt release catch.

The only advantage I can see with the BHO feature is that it's a positive indicator that you're out of ammo. But so what? When you pull the trigger and nothing happens, that tells you the same thing: "D'oh, I'm out!"

Am I missing something? Thanks.

The HBO is great! If it is independent of a empty or full mag! I do not like putting
an object into the receiver and having the mag out to satisfy the Range Rules!
I don't care as much on the AK's but the Hold Open feature on the SVT's,SKS's,
SVD's and the PSL's is a treat to have!!

Cheers
Doc

Hey guys, I don't understand something... What's the advantage of having a BHO feature on the AK?

I mean, as soon as you drop the empty mag, the bolt is going to close again anyway, right? You're still going to have to cycle the action to chamber that first round in the next mag.

It's not like an AR, where you the bolt stays open even after you drop the mag, and then you close it with the bolt release catch.

The only advantage I can see with the BHO feature is that it's a positive indicator that you're out of ammo. But so what? When you pull the trigger and nothing happens, that tells you the same thing: "D'oh, I'm out!"

Am I missing something? Thanks. Its a HUGE ADVANTAGE to know your out of ammo before you try to take a shot when it counts. I dont wanna find out I am out of ammo by hearing click. Could be the last sound you ever hear.

Knall,
That sound with the utterance of "Oh Crap" or some thing like that!!!

Cheers
Doc

anybody get any of these yet? are they actualy yugo mags?

just sent an email
site was updated to remove the combloc photos but the chinese mag pics remain
also now says "ALMOST GONE"

http://www.dansammo.com/odds.asp advertising 10 BHO mags shipped for $139.99

well that was about the fastest ive ever gotten a reply to an email from a business

~~~~~~~~my email
"Hi Eric,
there is a question about the mags being offered as Yugoslavian on ammoman.com. some of the confusion was from 2 of the pictures that appear to have since been removed, but also the 2 pictures that remain dont appear to be of Yugo BHO mags. they look like chinese ribless mags. can you verify that these are infact yugo BHO mags? are the pictures on the site of the actual mags in question or are they simply file photos of mags which look similar to yugos?
http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46925 ...thread which prompted this Email


LIKE NEW AK MAGS - 30 ROUNDERS
MADE IN YUGOSLAVIA
BLUED STEEL AND THEY LOOK AND WORK GREAT
LIMITED QUANTITY - FREE SHIPPING
100% MONEY BACK GUARANTEE
THIS PRICE WILL GO UP SOON
PN #AKMAG-BLUE-5, 10


thank you
Jim"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


~~~~~~~~the response
"After speaking with the importer.
We stand by the description.
Thanks for your interest."

those yugo mags still look different than what i have.
the 2 ribs on the bottom are longer on those

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o183/LuzRD/pix1828671437.jpg are what im familiar with

dansammo seems to be out of them now

ammoman still listing them as "almost gone"

http://www.ammoman.com/images4/AKMAG-BLUE-4.jpg

That picture is of chinese mags.

https://www.apexgunparts.com/product_info.php/products_id/757?osCsid=o25ib55d2p4i0nsrmce
$17.00
I ordered a couple the other day. Not here yet.

http://www.44mag.com/products.asp?dept=1342I placed an order for some of those about a week ago, recieved an email stating: "We're sorry, we were told these were going to have the BHO feature, but when we opened the crates we discovered they DO NOT. They are brand new yugo mags though. You still want them?"

I said Yes.

Looks like they updated the website. Now they're just selling them as Yugo 30-rounders.

10 for 150.00 mags are brand new, covered in thin sticky cosmo, identical to flatback chinese. They do not hold the bolt open but are really nice for the money.

Exactly..!!!

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Its a HUGE ADVANTAGE to know your out of ammo before you try to take a shot when it counts. I dont wanna find out I am out of ammo by hearing click. Could be the last sound you ever hear.

I have 4 Yugo BHO mags, 2 of them are surplus from the Balkans conflict and 2 are mint. All 4 have the "euro rib" and the BHO follower. I call Chinese on these too, or perhaps Albanian being that the Albanians buy or copy Chinese small arms and are right next door to Yugoslavia. Could be just an "oops" on the importers part..?

For anyone who is interested, it is easy to convert ANY of your AK mags to BHO.

For anyone who is interested, it is easy to convert ANY of your AK mags to BHO.

I was thinking the same thang. On the inside of the mag there are two bumps smash them down. Some followers need only one bump smashed others need two.

As long as we are praising them for false advertising.... I have 1 new matching # romy G kit for sale, looks to be unfired. $200 OBO

Its actualy just an old rusty hammer.... but who cares right??

If they sell em as BHO they FUCKIN BETTER BE!!!

After I got the mags, I noticed the website no longer said BHO. Normally, I would come unglued, but since they are too nice to send back for the price, it's not worth it. Since I don't want to return them, there is nothing they can do for me, but it is a bunch of crap to advertise them BHO and they are not.

those yugo mags still look different than what i have.
the 2 ribs on the bottom are longer on those

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o183/LuzRD/pix1828671437.jpg are what im familiar with

I have 13 YUGO BHO mags (5 used, 8 mint/unused). I pulled them out and they all look like the ones in your picture, not the ones in the original post's photo. I know mine are BHOs since I use them and they hold the bolt open after the last round is fired.

I like the BHO feature, because you don't have to waste time squeezing the trigger to find out you're out of ammo. It is just a "convenience" at the range, but if you were in a self-defense situation it could be crucial.

Mike

I placed an order for some of those about a week ago, recieved an email stating: "We're sorry, we were told these were going to have the BHO feature, but when we opened the crates we discovered they DO NOT. They are brand new yugo mags though. You still want them?"

I said Yes.

Looks like they updated the website. Now they're just selling them as Yugo 30-rounders.


I thought that YUGO mags only came in the BHO format??? Am I mistaken?

Mike

I never heard of a non BHO yugo....

The best AK that I ever had was belt fed! We had them in 75rnd links that was
perfect for mobility and agility!! And you knew when to get a new belt ready!!

Cheers
Tapper :angel1:

I thought about getting a few! Then I remembered that at the range you are required to remove the mag and still have the bolt open!!

The Safety lever (on the M92 anyway) is notched along its top edge so once your bolt locks in the rear position, you can throw the safety up and it holds the bolt back while you swap the magazine.

Regarding the BHO in combat, couldnt it be a negative, as well?
Anywho, here's another site with BHO mags:

http://www.akparts.com/index.htm

I ordered a few 20 rounders and birdcage flash hider from them, I liked their service.

David

When I was in the SAS No 2 Squadron they had Modified AK that were belt fed!
Nothing like going into a advance recon wandering how many rounds were left
in the mag! We had 75 round links that worked like a charm!! That took care
of the BHO problem!!

Cheers
Tapper :angel1:

The pictures looked like BHO followers and raised the 5mm up to get the BHO effect.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/UtgaSchleigle/maggs%20followers/100_7103bfw.jpg
Follower down - bolt flys through.
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/UtgaSchleigle/maggs%20followers/100_7111bfw.jpg
Tabb inside magg stopps follower travel.
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/UtgaSchleigle/maggs%20followers/100_7109bfw.jpg
Tabb pushed down to let followers raise up to magazine lipp.
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/UtgaSchleigle/maggs%20followers/100_7104bfw.jpg
Up and BHO is acheiveredede.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/UtgaSchleigle/maggs%20followers/100_7100bfw.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/UtgaSchleigle/maggs%20followers/sel1selectornotch.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/UtgaSchleigle/maggs%20followers/sel2selectorinuse.jpg

In my Chinese mags the back of the followers are not reinforced. I would like the follower to be strong.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/UtgaSchleigle/maggs%20followers/comparemaggfolower.jpg
Both styles of follower.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/UtgaSchleigle/maggs%20followers/2nkkjl4followerbhochina.jpg
Reinforced follower. If I were to make these - I would have an 0.25mm over lapp of the back of the follower bed and weld over the hoop to get extra strength. The rounded corners on these stamped metal is great. I would love to know who made this maggazine.

Not ammoman maggs but you guys who get one post picts.

http://www.akparts.com/index.htm[/url]

I ordered a few 20 rounders and birdcage flash hider from them, I liked their service.

David

I just recieved some of these BHO magazines, which are advertised and invoiced as Yugos. But they are not. Instead, I recieved some brand new mags with Chinese followers. They were shrink wrapped and coated in grease. I would have preferred real Yugos, because now I'll have to grind off the bumps inside the bodies to make them function as BHO mags. That's another rainy day project, to dismantle, clean and modify them. It's not worth the hassle to return them. But it was a little misleading on the part of the company to sell them as Yugos. It can't be a misunderstanding. After all, the company is named 'akparts' and they don't sell Chinese mags on their website. Let the buyer beware!

I grabbed ten (10) of the Yugo BHO mags from APEX Inc.

https://www.apexgunparts.com/product_info.php/cPath/50/products_id/757?osCsid=mj6dp5ov3c0jf7pm8ctigrorn0

They arrived as advertised ("used mag, may show finish wear and may have minor dents that do not affect the function") but all were completely free of dents and deep scratches, and at least three appeared entirely unused with pristine followers and no visible sign of handling (just small spots of surface rust here and there from storage).

They only included nine (9) mags in the box, bit they've since prompty sent out the tenth mag without a hassle (excellent friendly service). I figure these were a fair enough deal at $17 a pop. A little cleanup and re-blue, and these will literally be good as new. :cool: The flash on my camera really illuminated every imperfection on these mags. They look much less molested under normal lighting.

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo40/corsairguru/NFA/DSC09555small.jpg

Same group of mags after some cleanup. Should make excellent range mags after some re-bluing.

If anyone finds a source for actual (LNIB) Yugo BHO mags anywhere, post it here! I need a few more of these.

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo40/corsairguru/NFA/DSC09566small.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/UtgaSchleigle/maggs%20followers/sel1selectornotch.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/UtgaSchleigle/maggs%20followers/sel2selectorinuse.jpg

I don't think that my MAK90 can safely be modified to work like this.
It seems that if I were to remove enough material for the safety to hold the bolt handle back, then it doesn't look like it would be very strong. The shape of my bolt's handle is different than the one pictured above.
http://s178.photobucket.com/albums/w249/chestonphillips/?action=view&current=100_0214.jpg

Am I on the right track here?You pound the tabs down on the mags then install or cut the notch in the safty lever so when the last round is fired the bolt stays open you then flip the lever up to hold the bolt open then remove empty mag and insert the full one.

I just got the 9 Hungarian 20rd mags from AIM. They have two tabs that I Dremmeled off and they are now capable of holding the bolt open.

However, the follower back end that the bolt hits is a domed type follower and the bolt puts a pretty good nick in the follower where it strikes it. Is this a problem? I can overcome the follower if I pull the bolt all the way back and let it rip.