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panzertruppe
Do they?
panzertruppe
Bascot
Last catalog from J & G listed them. They are bolt action, so not on Obamination's immediate ban list.
tdbrown1969
http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Russian_Model_91_30_7_62x54R_Mosin_Nagant.html
Russian Model 91/30 7.62x54R Mosin Nagant Package (http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Russian_Model_91_30_7_62x54R_Mosin_Nagant.html)
01/03 FFL Required
Price: $69.95ea
click for details
http://rguns.net/rifles/rifles-bolt.shtml
Mosin Nagant M91/30 Rifle
$75.00 - Round Receiver
$99.00 - Octagonal Receiver
http://www.jgsales.com/index.php/c/c-r-guns/cPath/290
1492xq_st Mosin-Nagant 91/30 Hex receiver rifle, Standard Grade, 7.62x54R caliber. (http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/c/c-r-guns/p/mosin-nagant-91-30-hex-receiver-rifle%2C-standard-grade%2C-7-62x54r-caliber-/cPath/290/products_id/1524?osCsid=f42ff426faa424606dce88222ff2f6b6)
BFT!
I've noticed that all the 91/30's and m44's that were worth havng are now sold in the FT.Worth. TX area. Went from a surplus to a drout in under two weeks.
smittygj
They have them in my local MC Sports store for $89.
my-rifle
Yesterday I received five Mosin-Nagants from Century - 3 laminate incompletes and two hex incompletes for $45 and $65. Two rifles came in without front sight bases, but the rest either were missing nothing or didn't have the cleaning rod. I have extras of these from when Century had the $20 cracked-stock specials.
knall
You would have to be am IDIOT not to buy one for that price.
I have a Turk 1893 and I love it, paid $75 back in the day.
swabbie
Nice deal My Rifle....
keep sayin I won't buy another Mosin,but I would like to have a laminate....
ya interested in a trade ?
my-rifle
Turned out Century had another laminate and another hex. Bought 'em both. They also had missing-parts M44s at $39 each. Hell. I can't help myself.
Swabbie I love the laminates, because I can strip off the crappy shellac, then spend a couple weeks slowly gently smoothing the grain, until all the strokes are parallel to the grain, then over a couple months I slowly add coat after coat of pure tung oil until that little bugger has a glassy finish that really makes those laminate layers pop. My refinished Mosin Nagants are the most beautiful rifles I've ever seen with their graceful lines and high-contrast grains. When I take them to the range people always come over to ask where DID I get that gun??
Frankly I love refinishing any Mosin-Nagant as long as it has a good stock without major damage. I've tried boiled linseed oil and Tru-Oil, but tung oil is the best. Tru-Oil works in just ten coats, but it's a lot darker than tung oil.
swabbie
Well the guys at the Mosin forum don't approve to say the least :rofl_smal ,but I say good for you :small_gri
I've got some carbine ammo and or reloading components with ur name on em, and I'll meet ya halfway tween here and N'Awlins if you want to part with one :rofl_smal
If not, well I'll understand....I couldn't afford one(sad) the last time I saw one,and haven't seen one since
mosinutty
My-rifle. I've been re-finishing my Mosin's with Tru-oil for a while now and like the results but would like to try your process. What is tung oil? I've never heard of it.:wink_smal Hello Swabb!
my-rifle
Tung oil is the oil of the tung nut. It's a bit like BLO or Tru Oil, but it goes on thinner than Tru Oil, and it takes a LOT more coats - like 30 or so. It takes about a day or so to dry in between coats, so the process takes a long time - like a month or more. The tung oil finish is a little more red than the dark brown of Tru Oil, and I favor it. I'm not knocking Tru Oil at all. The stuff makes a beautiful, durable finish on wood. If you want to try tung oil, Old Masters has it for about $10 a pint, and a pint will do about 20 Mosin-Nagants as well as the bed frame you just made for your 2-month old daughter. Make sure to get 100% tung oil, not the tung-oil refinishing wax which has other stuff in it.
The trick is to use very thin coats. They dry faster, and they don't get that gravelly feel like heavier coats do. Also tung oil turns rubbery on exposure to air if you don't apply it, so replace the cap on your can immediately after you put it on your rag to rub into the wood. Always rub with the grain, and buff with 00000 steel wool between coats.
Hi Swabbie. I'm a lot better about buying guns than I am about parting with them. Frankly I only have four laminate stock Mosin Nagants, and I really treasure them. The hardwood stocks refinish well, but those laminates - wow!
mosinutty
Thanks for the information My-rifle, I think I'll give it a try on my next one. And with mosins there will always be a next one!:smile_sma
Trotsky39
Turned out Century had another laminate and another hex. Bought 'em both. They also had missing-parts M44s at $39 each. Hell. I can't help myself.
Swabbie I love the laminates, because I can strip off the crappy shellac, then spend a couple weeks slowly gently smoothing the grain, until all the strokes are parallel to the grain, then over a couple months I slowly add coat after coat of pure tung oil until that little bugger has a glassy finish that really makes those laminate layers pop. My refinished Mosin Nagants are the most beautiful rifles I've ever seen with their graceful lines and high-contrast grains. When I take them to the range people always come over to ask where DID I get that gun??
Frankly I love refinishing any Mosin-Nagant as long as it has a good stock without major damage. I've tried boiled linseed oil and Tru-Oil, but tung oil is the best. Tru-Oil works in just ten coats, but it's a lot darker than tung oil.
Pics PLEASE....!!
Sounds like a fun project.
my-rifle
Man that's a challenge. Lighting is soooooooooooo difficult when photographing reflective surfaces. It seems like there's always something in the photo that's flashing light at the lens. I'll try it though as soon as I get a break from caring from my two-month-old daughter :)
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OK, here's a photo of my current project. It's the laminate 91/30 stock that came on the Mosin Nagant that just arrived. The finished product will be a lot darker 27 coats from now.
Oh, and pay no attention to the, uh cigar boxes behind it.
<img src="http://www2.regmar.com:81/Pics/my-rifle/external%20links/ammo%20stash%202009-02-07%201024x768.jpg">
Trotsky39
Sir, that rifle is absolutely beautiful. :notworthy
Thank you.
And I applaud your efforts in cigar box collecting.... :small_gri
sv_libertarian
Holy crap! Them is a lot of cigar boxes! How many umm cigars is that anyhow?
swabbie
Yep...gotta get me one of them :small_gri
Like ur cigar collection
my-rifle
Thanks on the gunstock. That's nothing but rubbing alcohol to completely strip the shellac followed by three coats of tung oil.
I really like cigars a LOT. Unfortunately there are some types of cigars which sadly are under-represented in my, um, "collection". Take 8x56r for example or .303 or .30 caliber carbine. Less than 2000 examples of each. It frightens me at night.
Trotsky39
Less than 2000 examples of each. It frightens me at night.
:rofl_smal
I hear ya.
my-rifle
Swabbie, I call Century every couple of days to chat with my sales rep. We're pretty close, and we discuss everything from SHTF supplies (He's into squirreling away batteries, water, and beans.) to child-rearing and politics. Every time I call I ask if they have any laminates in the warehouse, and whenever one shows up I buy it. The hidden cost is that they usually are missing major parts - like the front sight mount or a badly counter-bored pitted barrel. One even came in with a split stock. Damn. That one was a wash. In the end they cost me a lot more than the $50 purchase price, but I think they're worth it. I'll let you know the next time he says they have one or two.
Shizzlore
Hey, I'm new to these forums.
Anyway, one of my questions is: Why are Mosin Nagants so cheap in the first place? In doesn't make much sense to me, it's not like they are super crappy. Why are Mauser 98s so expensive in comparison? I know they are a better design, but they are old and were mass-produced just like Mosins, so why can't they all be cheap, or similarly priced? Not to mention the ammo, 7.62x54r is nothing compared to 7.92x57.
my-rifle
My guess is supply and demand. The Russians produced millions of these Mosin-Nagants, and the American market only demands a couple million. This means there are more products than the market requires, and the price falls. What's worse, American perception of Soviet-era products is pretty dim. Americans just don't crave "that cheap Russian crap." The AK47 has the same bum rap.
Regarding the comparison with the K98s, several factors come into play. German products are better engineered, and the machine work is better than their Russian counterparts. The Germans did a better job of recording the markings on their rifles making them more collectible. Furthermore there are simply fewer K98s than Mosin-Nagants, and they have those neat-o swastikas on them.
On the other hand the K98s are no more accurate than the Mosin-Nagants, and their ammo is a bit more rare. All in all I prefer the Mosin-Nagants.
Shizzlore
One of my friends is in Austria right now, and he said that he saw a Mosin Nagant for 400 euros. That's $507.56
Of course that's Europe and it's a pain to get any kind of gun over there.
sv_libertarian
Also IIRC the current crop of rifles is coming out of the Ukraine. Can these even be imported from Russia right now? Or does the Russian import ban only apply to military semi autos? I'd love for some more SVT 40's to show up on the market...
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