"rifle" receiver used as pistol?

since i am not 21, i can not yet purchase a pistol. i am building a pistol AK, and wanted to get a nodack spud receiver. but i can't register it at my FFl as a pistol as i am not yet 21. so can i legally pick it up from my FFL as a rifle receiver, and use it for a pistol build?(no i would never have attached a rear stock to it, virgin reciever used in pistol build)

The dealer doesn't have anything to do with it. It's recommended that you get a letter from the maker, NoDak, that it was sold to you new as a bare receiver. If you state requires registration then it might be different where you live. Tell your dealer to get some updated forms if it's just the federal forms and not state registration.

I've herd conflicting arguments on this I've read that no you can't and I've herd that if it was never used to build a rifle it can be built as a pistol maybe one of the more experianced builders will chime in

i live in PA. state laws says that i am legally allowed to own a pistol if

A: parent/grand parent gives it to me as a gift
B: if i buy it from a personal seller and get it transferred to me at a sheriff's office.

i can't legally ask someone to go pick up the receiver and transfer it to me, as it would be a strawman sale.

Does PA have required handgun registration?

i think so, IDK, never bought a pistol :P

Well if somebody moves to PA do they have register their handguns? Since you are starting with a receiver you will be making a pistol. Better find out if pistol builders in PA have to register their pistols.

Well if somebody moves to PA do they have register their handguns? Since you are starting with a receiver you will be making a pistol. Better find out if pistol builders in PA have to register their pistols.


no, there is no gun registration in PA(PAFOA.org).

Since there isn't any registration in PA , if you want something to show for it ask NoDak to include a letter that you bought the receiver new and it was never built as a long gun. The dealer doesn't give you anything to show for it. It's not required but recommended.

alright, thanks

so can i legally pick it up from my FFL as a rifle receiver, and use it for a pistol build?


you can't do that.......not since they change the 4473s, that went into effect 15 nov 08, your FFL will have to check the box "other", for receiver ........no longer can he check pistol, or long gun for a stripped receiver....... and by the way, the new standards is you must be 21 to buy "other" (receiver).

It's not the 4473, it's an old regulation. The new 4473 form has more information about the regulations but the regulations have not changed. Under 21 can only buy complete shoulder stocked rifles and shotguns from dealers. No frames and no pistol grip shotguns(without shoulder stocks) for under 21. So you can't buy that receiver.

It's not the 4473, it's an old regulation. The new 4473 form has more information about the regulations but the regulations have not changed. Under 21 can only buy complete shoulder stocked rifles and shotguns from dealers. No frames and no pistol grip shotguns(without shoulder stocks) for under 21. So you can't buy that receiver.
Not that it matters to me personally, but how can a pistol grip shotgun be restricted from over 18 and under 21? It's classed as a longarm, not a handgun.

Not that it matters to me personally, but how can a pistol grip shotgun be restricted from over 18 and under 21? It's classed as a longarm, not a handgun.
For the same reason the factory pistol-grip-only shotty can become an AOW and the factory full butt stock equipped shotty can not.

It's the law (and it doesn't have to make sense).

Not that it matters to me personally, but how can a pistol grip shotgun be restricted from over 18 and under 21? It's classed as a longarm, not a handgun.

It has to have a buttstock, which can folding, for somebody under 21 to buy it from a dealer. I forget exactly how the regulation is worded. There's more to it than just long gun vs handgun, similar to buying a receiver from a dealer.

Shotguns with pistol grips and no
shoulder stocks attached were restricted to
persons 21 years of age or older if being sold by a
Federal firearms licensee. This requirement is
specified in 27 CFR § 178.99(b) and 18 U.S.C.
922(b)(1), which states that if the firearm to
be transferred is is other than a rifle or shotgun.


Then the purchaser must be 21 years of age. The
definition of a shotgun under the GCA [18 U.S.C.
§ 921(a)(5)] is a weapon ieintended to be fired
from the shoulder.ld With the pistol grip in lieu of
the shoulder stock, this weapon is not designed to
be fired from the shoulder, and therefore is not a
shotgun.

AGE RESTRICTION REMINDER
Licensees are reminded that certain commercially
produced “shotguns” do not fall within the
definition of shotgun under the GCA. Firearms
such as the Mossberg Model 500 Camper,
Persuader 500 and all other makes and models,
which come equipped with a pistol grip in place
of the butt stock, are not shotguns under the GCA.
Therefore, they cannot be sold or delivered by a
licensee to any person less than 21 years of age.

When I bought my virgin receiver, I listed it on the
yellow sheet as a pistol receiver.

That's how you do it.

You need to wait till you are 21.
A rifle receiver on a pistol w/o a tax stamp will get you into trouble.

When I bought my virgin receiver, I listed it on the
yellow sheet as a pistol receiver.

That's how you do it.

You need to wait till you are 21.
A rifle receiver on a pistol w/o a tax stamp will get you into trouble.
When you bought it, the forms were different.

The new form has a check box for "receiver", so there is no confusion.

use a bent flat or 80% blank. it is legal to build your own.