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chopstick1
10-20-2004, 04:02 PM
I saw a link on this site that someone wrote regarding a thinnier shock block because the normal size ones were causing malfunctions? anyone had trouble with this? just wondering before I buy one for each weapon! thanks

BigDog
11-16-2004, 08:31 PM
Get the ones from Red Star Arms. They sell good stuff.

http://www.redstararms.com/

Green Giant
04-12-2005, 08:06 PM
Black Jack buffers carries recoil buffers that function in my Vepr. www.blackjackbuffers.com

mohctep
04-16-2005, 04:55 AM
I've used the blackjack buffers without any problems- I like them.

stg58guy
04-16-2005, 11:27 AM
I have the Buffer Technologies one in my milled Bulgy, no probs during about 2500 rounds.
Looks like Red Star Arms sells both, Blackjacks are cheaper.

yasnevo
05-28-2005, 03:29 AM
What is the true benefit of them?

stg58guy
05-28-2005, 02:32 PM
When metal hits against metal in the gun, the deceleration is something like 2000 G I believe. The buffer probably cuts this to about half. It should improve the durability of the receiver quite a bit - in theory. In practice the barrel (or several!) should wear out before the receiver gives up the ghost.
I think the biggest practical benefit of a buffer in an AK is that your optics (if you have any...) won't get battered as much. They are most susceptible to exactly these kind of sharp blows as an unbuffered selfloader has.

yasnevo
05-28-2005, 02:38 PM
Ok, I see the supposed benefit... I wonder how all those millions of Kalashnikov's in the bush in Africa, Asia, the middle east have survived for so long without them?

uzitiger
05-28-2005, 06:44 PM
I don't see any benefit to these 'buffers'. I tried one in a Saiga and an AK and did not feel any difference furthermore the buffer was barely touched by the bolt carrier.

colonel sanders
05-28-2005, 11:01 PM
look at this video, its the reason why i didnt buy a buffer
http://www.bsg-dornier.de/schiessen/filme/hsp/kalashnikov.mpg

scaldwellk
05-29-2005, 09:42 PM
Looks like in the vid sometimes the bolt carrier hits the rear and sometimes it does not. Anyone else see this?

yasnevo
05-29-2005, 09:46 PM
I am not meaning to slam anyone in their choice to use these shockblocks in their Kalashnikov weapon. I just find it...well, funny, that we in America use them on our weapons that we take to the range to shoot... and where we baby our guns.

In Tora Bora, Africa, Asia or Iraq... they don't use them...

Anyway...

Y-

6526
05-30-2005, 09:27 PM
a good point, but i made one out of thick diesel fuel line,just to give a bit of cushion to my amature,home-brewed rivet job

yasnevo
05-30-2005, 09:37 PM
6526...whatever works for you bro!

Y-

762minigun
09-28-2005, 11:19 AM
They are a solution to a non-existant problem

Surly
09-30-2005, 10:48 AM
I use them in all of my AK's, PSL, Valmet, NDM-86, SKS's, FAL, 10/22, and I have one coming for my Mini-30. Yes, they may be unnecessary for some bushman that may fire one magazine a year at best, but for as much as I shoot I find them to be a small cost to protect my investments. Ultimately, if they actually don't help they won't hurt either and I still have peace of mind.

lew
10-24-2005, 02:13 PM
Have any of you used one in an FAL? The lower on my South African kit looks a little beat up from the bolt carrier hitting.

veprk5.45
10-24-2005, 02:55 PM
i had one on a chinese sks and aflter a couple thousand rounds it started to slamfire.i took it out and soaked the bolt in clp and the problem went away.on the sks the recoil buffer sits behind the carrier spring and i thought i might be adding more spring pressure due to the fact that it took up 1/8 of an inch causing or helping it to slamfire.i sure it was just the fireing pin sticking but im not taking a chance.thank god it only did it in 2 round bursts,f it would have done it for the hole 30rnds it could have got a little freaky.

scaldwellk
10-24-2005, 05:44 PM
Have any of you used one in an FAL? The lower on my South African kit looks a little beat up from the bolt carrier hitting.

I have one in my Imbel and I really like it.

lew
10-24-2005, 09:25 PM
That's encouraging. Thank you.

Illuminaughty
10-26-2005, 02:36 AM
I saw a link on this site that someone wrote regarding a thinnier shock block because the normal size ones were causing malfunctions? anyone had trouble with this? just wondering before I buy one for each weapon! thanks

Why don't you buy one before you buy one for each weapon? Seems kinda foolhardy to me.