Chinese 100 rd drum issues?

the drum will fit the AES-10b correct?

how can you tell without loading it if the spring is bad?

250 shipped is a good price?

tell me anything you can about 'em please..

No way to tell about the spring. Is this a new drum???? Do not over tighten spring - it is like a clock spring on an old clock.

Probably the price is OK = I have seen $195 for 75 rounder. How stable is vendor????? Do they include a manual of operation????? You can buy manual for $6.oo reprint.

I have 75 rounders and I am stisfoed in 7.62x39.

$250. for a 100 round chin. is a steal, that is the min. price for a 75er. a 100 round mag usualy starts out at $350.-400. this is an ind. person selling it am 99.9% sure of that.
so 1 of 4 things is going on.
1. needs money quick!
2. something wrong with mag.
3. doesnt know what he has.
4. is a totall scam!
i have 1 of each never a problem, but have read recently in last month 2 people had problems with with rom. 75 round drums not fitting a bulg. rifle
unless gently squezzed in a vice! (scary as hell!)
chin. are the best there is or will ever be! you can test the spring on those
loaded or unloaded by simply turning lever, and then pushing the release button.
on a non-chin. it is impossible to test unloaded. those should never stay loaded
more than 72 hrs. before use, that is acc. to soviet mil. other wise can easily
cause warp. and flatspots on spring!
on the chin. they can stay either way, with the spring wound or unwound!
i would not buy a non-chin. for $20. to use, sell maybe!

here's the add:

Chinese 100rd AK drum, used very good conditon, appears never to have been loaded, just inserted.

I laughed at that...kinda of like the statement: " honey, I'll just put the tip in"

here's what the seller said about the "appears to have never been used":

The drum has a thin layer of oil in it, with dust on top. No rings in the oil to indicate being loaded.

I put 5 rounds in & would a couple of clicks to check the spring, it's good.


so I'm still gonna go for it barring any advice against it...??

I put 5 rounds in & would a couple of clicks to check the spring, it's good.

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that sounds like he doesnt know anything about it, dont need to put anything in it to test spring.
wind it and hit release butt. as far as the only inserted part, that honestly seems like an avg. statement to see how a certain mag looks and or handles.
i sometimes do that to except mine are always loaded. certain types of mags
make a gun look different!
saw this ad a month or so ago, last month one sold on G.B. for $360. after 15
minutes of being posted. last week one was pulled due to reserve of $300.
not met! it is a hell of a good deal, but my 100 rounder is so heavy, that the only time i use it is if i am in a defensive postion. the 75er is my favorite! the reason the chin. are so exp. is there are no more and there never ever will be any more! i believe they will both increase by $100. each by Nov. if not more!
best of luck and keep us posted, both of mine had been loaded and wound up
for 7 yrs. and they worked as i knew 100%!
the reason mine stay loaded and wound is the same reason i keep a round in the slide of my pistols, so i dont have to waste time but always ready to go!
i really think the reason it hasnt sold is that people think its a scam due to
the wording!

I keep mine stuffed with rounds but not wound up. My chinese 75rnd you can load it and wind ten turns when you are ready to rock. No tension on spring while stored.

Also to unload the spring only use a dowel to press the little center button. The funny looking wing nut under the buttin spins like a food processor - sherrding your finger. There is a load noise too.


ARHAAAAAAAHGK!!!!!!

After shooting you press the button - let off tension with dowel!!!! Then press with your finger to unwind follower and ferris wheel before bullet stuffing.

$250. for a 100 round chin. is a steal, that is the min. price for a 75er. a 100 round mag usualy starts out at $350.-400. this is an ind. person selling it am 99.9% sure of that.
so 1 of 4 things is going on.
1. needs money quick!
2. something wrong with mag.
3. doesnt know what he has.
4. is a totall scam!
i have 1 of each never a problem, but have read recently in last month 2 people had problems with with rom. 75 round drums not fitting a bulg. rifle
unless gently squezzed in a vice! (scary as hell!)
chin. are the best there is or will ever be! you can test the spring on those
loaded or unloaded by simply turning lever, and then pushing the release button.
on a non-chin. it is impossible to test unloaded. those should never stay loaded
more than 72 hrs. before use, that is acc. to soviet mil. other wise can easily
cause warp. and flatspots on spring!
on the chin. they can stay either way, with the spring wound or unwound!
i would not buy a non-chin. for $20. to use, sell maybe!

jesus h christ. i dont think i have seen a more ignorant, or to be blunt, dumbass retarded post here.

first off, if you pay 250 for a 75rd drum, YOU ARE GETTING RIPPED OFF. i would not pay more than 200 TOPS and thats if you are desperate. hell, i have 2 listed RIGHT NOW for sale for 190 shipped. hell, even gunsmoker doesnt have them for much over 200, and they are always high.


i know that a dealer here locally, has a 100rd chinese drum he is wanting 200 for. that is a pretty good deal. i have 3 75 rd'ers, i dont need any more right now.

also, if you are having fitment issues, its not due to the drum... its your converted gun and the people who dremeled out the mag well didnt do it right.

only issues i have ever heard of are yugo BHO mags not fitting in a lot of receivers... they are thicker though.

jesus h christ. i dont think i have seen a more ignorant, or to be blunt, dumbass retarded post here.

first off, if you pay 250 for a 75rd drum, YOU ARE GETTING RIPPED OFF. i would not pay more than 200 TOPS and thats if you are desperate. hell, i have 2 listed RIGHT NOW for sale for 190 shipped. hell, even gunsmoker doesnt have them for much over 200, and they are always high.


i know that a dealer here locally, has a 100rd chinese drum he is wanting 200 for. that is a pretty good deal. i have 3 75 rd'ers, i dont need any more right now.

also, if you are having fitment issues, its not due to the drum... its your converted gun and the people who dremeled out the mag well didnt do it right.

only issues i have ever heard of are yugo BHO mags not fitting in a lot of receivers... they are thicker though.

:the_finge
What is your problem catsailor? is a dog after you? avail. and prices vary all over! where i live either a 75 or 100 round chin mag. is impossible to find!
any dealer will charge $250. for a 75 round chin. drum!
the junky rom. and russian ones go for $99. avg. to $150.
i have no problem with any of mine, but stated that i had heard about 2 people who had problems fitting those mags in their new arsenal aks!
so please take your nerve pills and all of your other medicines!
i just stated how i despise rom. and russian drums and would not pay you $ 20. for either to use in my guns!

sure sometimes one can find a fantastic deal on anything, depending on how bad seller needs cash etc..
well hope you get your problems straightened out and i am sorry about you getting kicked out of those anger mgmt. classes! :rofl_smal

got it in the mail yesterday...

read a tut-tut-tutorial! on how to load it.

think I got 97 rounds in the drum...what a rip off!! I want my money back!!

closed the lid and wound it 3 times....tension on the cartridge at the feed lips wasn't as hard as a 1911 hi cap mag to say the least....but the first five fed well when cycling the bolt.

think I'm very happy with it....it now sits loaded and unwound ....ready.

Very happy for you, glad all worked out fine! You really got an excellent deal,
that thing is like money in bank! You are able to get a 100 rounds in it! it is so easy to loose count, i dug out my 100 rounder last week and played with both it and my 75 rounder, happy as hell with both. were you able to get a cover for it?I have a rubberized cover for each of mine,which are very tight and cumbersome to get on and off! But i do also have a canvas chin. pouch with adj.
strap that i really love! Happy for you! :small_gri

A friend found 100 round chinese drum at a gunshop near Orlando this morning. The shopowner had it marked for $125.00. My friend got it for $100.00 plus tax out the door, if it is okay, it is a steal of a deal I think.

Damn, he won the lottery! Why cant i be that lucky? 100 Rouders are hard to get, seems the ratio of 75ers compared to 100 rounders is 99 to 1.
Bulgaria bought the chin. tooling for 75ers and is selling them here in US, Copes has em for $158. so far 5000.+ have been imp. so price on 75ers will go way down!

Damn, he won the lottery! Why cant i be that lucky? 100 Rouders are hard to get, seems the ratio of 75ers compared to 100 rounders is 99 to 1.
Bulgaria bought the chin. tooling for 75ers and is selling them here in US, Copes has em for $158. so far 5000.+ have been imp. so price on 75ers will go way down!
That may be, but look at how the Chicom 30 rounders still command a better price than the euro mags. I think the Chicom 75's will hold value, maybe at 165-70. People still want the Chicom stuff and will pay a bit more for it.

Some people, but none i know seem to have all the luck, i have been wanting chin. type 86 b.pup but they seem to for $2200-$2500, today on another board dude shows pic. of his nib 86, another member said i just got one and i stole it for $1800, how much was yours? First dude says i saw ad nib $900.shipped! WOWWW! The second dude says well i still think i did steal mine for $1800!
As far as the Bulg. clones of chin. 75ers go, i just wonder if they are as good
or made with cheaper components, Just like the springs in all drums cant be stored under tension except chin. Russian army manual states to only load their 75 drums within 36 hrs of intended use? Arsenal quality on guns as well as their new slab mags has gone to the dogs in the last 3 yrs! Their guns are not much better on issues than the WASRs, also Norinco USA is already producing 120 AR-15 mags for $375. avg. and will be producing 75ers under the norinco brand name as well as copies of norinco guns by next yr. however i believe those items and guns wont be much cheaper than the real ones, maybe more.
When asked if these US made Norinco clones would be made on original chin. tooling, the US owner stated that that tooling was to old and worn out!
This was at last shot show earlier this yr.
And now we hear the bulgarians bought the tooling for the drums?
Copes dist. did say it would be possible the price of the drums $158. could possibly drop since 2 more distr. also have them and so far 5000. made it into the country!
I dont plan to buy any of those, since i have both a chin. 75 + 100 round drum!
But the going rate for a 75 chin. is $250. by major dist. at this time, and i would not be suprised if the price on the chin. would go up by Nov. But only time will tell!

after shooting a full drum 3x...I notice that I need to re-wind it after about 75 rounds or so....is this common?

got it in the mail yesterday...

read a tut-tut-tutorial! on how to load it.

think I got 97 rounds in the drum...what a rip off!! I want my money back!!

closed the lid and wound it 3 times....tension on the cartridge at the feed lips wasn't as hard as a 1911 hi cap mag to say the least....but the first five fed well when cycling the bolt.

think I'm very happy with it....it now sits loaded and unwound ....ready.


After you have finished loading the back with 97 rounds close it and add the other 3 rounds to the top then wind it up a little more than 3 times for proper tension.

I lost my instruction pamflet that came with my 75 (hold 76) and the instructions said turn wind key 8 to 10 times but never wind beyond the spring or never keep winding if key hard stops. Spring is just like spring in an old clock. (your milage may vary)

Also don't forget to push spring release button with a dowel or rodd. No FINGERs OR AMMO!!!!

This is my very first post here.

I've been reading this thread for a few days with interest because I happen to have some 'unused' chinese ak drums myself.

In fact, I have about a dozen of the darn things plus a few 75rd ones as well.

So.....should I "Sit on them"? Or, "Sell them"?

I had posted on another board about two weeks ago and I had a few PM's come to me regarding a few offers of $100 each. And to be truthful, some of the people were a little 'testy' when I didn't sell them for that amount.

I guess that I'm looking at you guys as "The Pros" and wondering if after the inaugeration if these drums will tank in price or go up substantially. Timing is everything I guess, hence, I had sold all of my gold at $400 and now regret it.

I'm sorry if this is thread drift from the OP.

BFC

Well, they can't legally import any more, so you have a finite supply. The Chinese pattern 75s are now being made in Bulgaria, I assume they could also make the 100s if they sense a demand. If that happens, expect the price to level out or drop a bit as shooters will now grab up the Bulgarian model. If they remain rare, price should hold steady or go up, long term I don't see them coming down much. If Obama tries to pull off an actual ban, expect crazy prices!