because 54R does this to .5 inch steel

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HAHA thats beautiful!!

I believe that is "ballistic steel", right? I'm guessing that's a range gong that they hang out at 100 yards. I actually got a chance to shoot one of my Mosin Nagants at a 1.25" plate at 100 yards. The plate was 16"x16", and it was backed up with a pile 'o sand. Because the plate was immobile, the round penetrated, and I dug it out of the sand almost undeformed. The rifling grooves were still on the round. That's one bad-ass rifle.

that's impressive,makes me happy

What brand ammo did you use?td

I'm using Bulgarian stuff - two types. One that comes on stripper clips in 300-round tins and the other which didn't. Both were brass-cased and extracted like butter. They both punch like hammers though.

whats the availability on the 300-rnd cans on stripper clips?

Not sure how much is still avail

cans that were on stripper clips had 250 rds,other cans had 300 rds

however the stripper clip cans also had 50 Bulgarian circle 10 stripper clips ,which can sell for up to $2.00 each on evil bay :small_gri

this is the brass I'm gonna convert from Berdan to Boxer priming this winter.

I bet it's from the early 1950s.

I have 3 tins of the Bulgarian with 300 rounds per tin,4 tins of Hungarian with 440 per tin and 2 tins of Russian with 440 per tin,all light ball.I have been saving some cash to buy 2 tins of the Russian sniper ammo after seeing this I might just pick up a few more tins of the Bulgarian:small_gri td

I got 3 tins of the Bulgarian 300 rds also,plus a crate of of czech silvertip 780 rds,440 rd tin of Polish,200 rds Hungarian,and 100 rds of Brown Bear.

It all depends on the steel. I was shooting a leaf spring with steel core ammo (on the concave side). The spring is about 3/8 of an inch thick. It left a shallow (barely 1/8 inch) crater and bulged the spring slightly on the other side.

This is actually pretty impressive, since a .223 left no mark at all (except for a shiny spot.)

Another thing I found about the penetration of steel is this: If your target is dangling freely, some of the kinetic energy of the impact is transmitted to the target resulting in the target moving out of the way. This is why the free-hanging gongs bounce around when you hit them. If however, you pile up sand behind your steel target, so it can't move when stricken, all of the force of the impact is used to punch the hole. You are much more likely to go through a stationary, secured target that one that is allowed to hang freely.

You were probably using lead core rounds...try that with some silver-tip (steel core) Czech.

i shot some of the czech silver-tip today, and it seemed to fragment upon hitting a thin tin carmel popcorn can, leaving 1/8" pieces flying through the back of the tin like bird shot?
would the jacket be expected to peal back and breakup on something so light weight?

Well, i finally got some pictures of my leaf spring. Both impacts were with 7.62x54r steel core ammo. The spring was well braced against a dirt mound and i shot it form about 50 feet away. (Yeah, i know, that was pretty stupid.)

Surprisingly little damage. On the other hand, a .223 left no mark at all!

(The perfect hole in the middle is part of the leaf spring.)

I believe that is "ballistic steel", right? I'm guessing that's a range gong that they hang out at 100 yards. I actually got a chance to shoot one of my Mosin Nagants at a 1.25" plate at 100 yards. The plate was 16"x16", and it was backed up with a pile 'o sand. Because the plate was immobile, the round penetrated, and I dug it out of the sand almost undeformed. The rifling grooves were still on the round. That's one bad-ass rifle.

Just no way a 54R bullet is going to go all the way through an Inch and a quarter of steel......and if it did the jacket would be peeled off and busted into a hundred pieces, only the steel core of an AP would bust through steel (not that much!) and the jacket is destroyed.

Just no way a 54R bullet is going to go all the way through an Inch and a quarter of steel......and if it did the jacket would be peeled off and busted into a hundred pieces, only the steel core of an AP would bust through steel (not that much!) and the jacket is destroyed.

That's what I'd have thought too. Try it out for yourself if you doubt it.