View Thread: AES-10B and Chrome lining


bounce19712
I've been drooling for one of these for a few months...and bought one from MGS through Century (I believe) today.

a guy mentioned that chrome is better than not...so I asked if they were chrome lined barels. We couldn't find out the answer on the phone but The guy at MGS said chrome lining wasn't an issue with non-corrosive ammo anyways....and that chrome lining didn't do anything for accuracy....

doesn't it help with friction? and it seems that all the century AES10s are chromed anyways right?

so if mine isn't chromed....so what right?

Vashthestanbeto
if you are getting one from Military Gun Supply, I can assure you it will be chrome lined. I was going to get one myself therefore inspected each one they had on rack, but gave up after ammunition cost is considered(I have pretty much gave up on my 7.62x39 inventory, instead, trying to build up the 5.45 stash before the price rise.)

nalioth
Chrome lining is specified by military end users in their firearms to increase the longevity of their barrels.

Full auto firing wears barrels out, and the chrome is much harder than the steel of the barrel.

Chrome lining isolates the lands and grooves of the rifling and this degrades accuracy.

You will not find any match rifles with chrome lined barrels.

VALMET_M76
It appears that AES10B rifles have new USA barrels. Not Chromed.

I do not know if this was ALWAYS the case with the Century AES10B rifles but it IS NOW on current rifles.

FAL GRUNT
Val, not busting your chops but where did you hear this?

Just honestly want to know as I was considering buying one.

-myers

masman
i think val is confused. the yugo AK's that century build have US barrels. the AES10 and wasrs have original chrome lined barrels.

VALMET_M76
I thought I saw them described that way in a Century sales flier I had.

It is very possible I confused the Yugo and Romy RPKs .

gunplumber
not all. I bought one last weekend expecting a US barrel ( I read same ad) and it has a romy barrel. very nice. Makes no sense for something built from a wasr type action to have a US barrel as it was imported as a complete gun. Maybe the ad is wrong.

Anyway, had to open up the mag well and tweak a few other things, but overall, I am pleased. I like it better than my Yugo, which cost me more than double.

FAL GRUNT
Might have to pick one up then.

These have the magwell dimples?

thanks

-myers

gunplumber
no mag well dimples. they came with 10 rd mags and L shaped plates for mag lateral play. Opened the mag well in USA and trimmed back the L shaped plates. So they are plate reinforced, but no mag contact,

FAL GRUNT
Ah... i see. I kinda figured that.

Owell, still works.

-myers

bigbadbowtie
1st post...
I received my AES-10B last Friday from Century. Pretty much described as above. I have not shot it yet but hoped to Thursday.

nalioth
You guys who are worried about "dimples", the Soviets stopped using dimples on their RPKs in the 70s (and the satellites followed suit).

So there are no 'authenticity issues' with the AES-10Bs in appearance.


//sheesh, what is it with dimples, anyway . . . ( so long as it goes BANG )

bigbadbowtie
Oh and according to CAI... all AES-10B rifles have a chrome line barrel. This is a reply to an email they sent me.

"The AES rifles ALL have the original chrome lined barrels. We do make another rifle based on the Yugoslavian M72 LMG that is assembled with a US barrel and receiver. These do not have the chrome lining."

win308
I have 3 of the AES-10Bs from CAI.....all with chrome lined barrels.

mojo00
the Soviets stopped using dimples on their RPKs in the 70s (and the satellites followed)
Exactly, so NO dimples on the AES 10B is correct. On the flipside, the no dimples on the WASR is wrong.

By the way, both mine have chrome lined barrels.

dk8019
Pickup one this weekend at my dealer, typical Romanian build. Ran just fine, with both mags, weird thing is that the 30 rounders were nice and tight, but the included 40 rounder was loose. No feed issues with it though! Chrome lined barrel etc.

drumenigma
Has anyone experienced trigger slap with their aes-10b? I picked one up a while ago and have only brought it out maybe 3 times and all of those times have experienced trigger slap. I'm puzzled since they supposedly have the tapco trigger group in them. I also notice that pulling back the bolt carrier is much more difficult than on my WASR.

mojo00
That is strange....both mine have Tapco fcg's and are fantastic, some of the smoothest AK triggers I own. The carriers do seem a 'lil more stiffer to retract than AKM's I own, but not excessively so.

56type
Chrome lining is specified by military end users in their firearms to increase the longevity of their barrels.

Full auto firing wears barrels out, and the chrome is much harder than the steel of the barrel.

Chrome lining isolates the lands and grooves of the rifling and this degrades accuracy.

You will not find any match rifles with chrome lined barrels.

I guess you had better tell FN USA that using chrome lined barrels on precision rifles is a bad idea since their FN SPR Sniper rifle has a chrome lined barrel and is a FBI contract rifle. I don't think chrome lining effects accuracy to any great degree.

ETA: check out the august '09 issue of SWAT magazine for the specs on the FN SPR.

n0mad
AES10b's are imported single stack... magazine well is opened up us parts inserted just like all the other wasrs. As such they are chrome lined (mine is at least). Mine had a tac weld on the muzzle nut I cut it off. (after ensuring parts compliance of course). Stay away from the AES10 (non b models). They are shit.

rob9700
AES10b's are imported single stack... magazine well is opened up us parts inserted just like all the other wasrs. As such they are chrome lined (mine is at least). Mine had a tac weld on the muzzle nut I cut it off. (after ensuring parts compliance of course). Stay away from the AES10 (non b models). They are shit.


Is the info on the AES10 (non B) being s**t based on your experience with the rifles? Just curious as I own several of them. I also have several AES10B heavy barreled RPKs and I really haven't discerned any accuracy difference between them. Despite the thin barrels they shoot good and handle better than the "B" as they are much lighter. All of them have the typical Romanian attention to detail (Lack of it) but all the barrels are chrome lined and well made.

n0mad
Is the info on the AES10 (non B) being s**t based on your experience with the rifles? Just curious as I own several of them. I also have several AES10B heavy barreled RPKs and I really haven't discerned any accuracy difference between them. Despite the thin barrels they shoot good and handle better than the "B" as they are much lighter. All of them have the typical Romanian attention to detail (Lack of it) but all the barrels are chrome lined and well made.

Caught red-handed I don't own and haven't shot an AES10 (non b). I probably should not have said they are s**t. What I should have said is that they lack the swelled front trunnion, and heavy barrel, that are stereotypical of an rpk. They are basically a wasr10 with a really long barrel. I do have it on good authority that that the AES10 (non b) groups tend to walk around as the barrel heats up, but you would likely know more about that than I would as you own both. Didn't mean to pee on your AES10 (non b) parade.

rob9700
Caught red-handed I don't own and haven't shot an AES10 (non b). I probably should not have said they are s**t. What I should have said is that they lack the swelled front trunnion, and heavy barrel, that are stereotypical of an rpk. They are basically a wasr10 with a really long barrel. I do have it on good authority that that the AES10 (non b) groups tend to walk around as the barrel heats up, but you would likely know more about that than I would as you own both. Didn't mean to pee on your AES10 (non b) parade.


You didn't pee on my parade. I do appreciate the non b for its lightness, but you are correct. It does walk its impact as it heats up/ meaning more than 5 shot strings. (needs to cool down) I do like my B models better too, but they are so dog gone heavy for off hand shooting. :(

7.62FMJ
The AES 10B's have used chrome lined heavy barrels. Some are nice, others are pitted.