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Randyqnq
06-15-2004, 07:38 AM
Does anyone know if a AMD 65 would be legal to just leave the folder stock off? By which I mean don't cut the side of the Recv and drill the hole for the push button?
I can;t find anything on the ATF web site about this I know it needs welded or blind pined if I install it but to just leave it off all together and hope that in Sept I can put it on as a working folder if the AWB sunsets
Thanks
Randy

Pigsticker
06-15-2004, 06:56 PM
the rifle will have to be 26 inches long I believe. How you make it 26 inches long I don't think it matters.

USMC 0341
06-15-2004, 07:05 PM
Randyqnq,

I have not seen these up close but isn't there some way to put the folding stock together with something added or substituted - a screw, washer, or short tube - which would keep the stock open?

For instance, with a down-folding stock you can add a short piece of tubing, when assembling the internal mechanism, which makes it impossible to push the button which collapses the stock. People are building these like this so when (and if) the AWB does sunset all they will have to do is disassemble the stock and put it back together without the tube.

With a little ingenuity I bet there should be some way to do something like this with the AMD's stock. That way you could complete the job now and be ready for September. Just remember - the method for holding the stock open must need a tool to remove it in order to meet the BATFE's requirements.

Packrat
06-19-2004, 09:24 PM
There is a bolt that serves as the release. Either replace it with a longer or a shorter one (don't remember) screwed in tightly, and it's no longer a folder, legally. In the same way, the Romanian side-folder with a longer front screw or back (though the back is more sensitive to length) is no longer a folder. And as USMC 0341 said, the Norinco or Polish underfolder simply needs a piece of tubing to make the the piece a "fixed" stock.

Of course, I'm sure the gun banners regard this as a "circumvention" of the law, in the same as the thumbhole stock circumvented the the pistol grip law, even though thumbhole stocks were available only on expensive target or hunting rifles previously.

USMC 0341
06-23-2004, 09:49 PM
Don't ya just love "circumventing" dumb laws written by dumber people?

I am waiting to see somebody come out with a wildcat "49 BMG" round with a replacement barrel in that caliber to "circumvent" the 50 caliber bans that these fools are writing up.