View Thread: New stamped 7.62x39


crackedwindshield
Will the 7.62x39 ever be built instead of the tiny 223? :sleep_sma

crackedwindshield
You guys must be manufacturing ak's secretly for the CIA for the war in the sand box. Selling to civilians must just be your cover because I've never heard of a manufactured being so slow when people have money to spend. :small_gri

VALMET_M76
Arsenal brings in stamped receiver rilfes in sporter low-capacity form and remakes them into evil hi-caps a lot like Century does with their AKS.

Arsenal just does a lot better job and has better material to work with.

I'm waiting on the SLR108.


http://www.arsenalinc.com/slr108/slr108550x350.jpg

pickleweedpete
Yeah, I thought the boys at Arsenal went from milled to stamped receivers in an effort to increase their production, but if anything they turn out fewer rifles now than they did two or three years ago.

Why wait? If you're content with a stamped rifle then buy a good one from Vector or Lancaster, like I did. You won't be disappointed.

VALMET_M76
I have 7.62x39 stamped rifles. I just want one from Arsenal.

Apparently they made quite a few SLR 106s and a bunch of SLR 105s.

Just not the 7.62x39 caliber yet.

Bachelor_of_Science
I'm waiting for one as well. I've got a nice set of Russian wood just waiting to mate to that 108!

pickleweedpete
I have 7.62x39 stamped rifles. I just want one from Arsenal.

You guys, I understand although I guess I don't feel the same way. I've actually thought of selling one or two of my Arsenal AK's to raise the money to buy something new.

VALMET_M76
What kind of Arsenal AK?

pickleweedpete
Well... I suppose I've got two I could part with: an unfired postban SA M7 Classic and the 105A1R. I've put about 400 rounds through that one, though, so it might not bring enough to justify selling it.

VALMET_M76
Well... I suppose I've got two I could part with: an unfired postban SA M7 Classic and the 105A1R. I've put about 400 rounds through that one, though, so it might not bring enough to justify selling it.

I just bought a SLR105R. I'd have bought your's if I'd known you were thinking about selling it.

Still might. Let me know if you do want to sell it.

pickleweedpete
Were you just asking, Valmet?

VALMET_M76
I'm always interested in guns for sale.

recon-1
Agree on the 108!
http://www.arsenalinc.com/slr108.htm

Bachelor_of_Science
Well... I suppose I've got two I could part with: an unfired postban SA M7 Classic and the 105A1R. I've put about 400 rounds through that one, though, so it might not bring enough to justify selling it.

I'd be interested in the SA M-7 "Classic." Are you looking for anything in particular as far as trades are concerned?

DangerCart
I'm waiting for one as well. I've got a nice set of Russian wood just waiting to mate to that 108!
I was thinking the same thing when I first saw it.

chipster
108 looks interesting, but a 107CR or FR would be nice!

gunplumber
just transfered a milled .223 sidefolding (solid) stock. It was a really fine looking rifle. I think customer paid $850, which given the quality, is probably a reasonable price.

I too would like to see one in 7.62 with a stamped receiver.

VALMET_M76
Arsenal is shipping these things and they are in stock at distributors. Not 108s though.

http://www.arsenalinc.com/slr107cr/slr107cr.jpg

http://www.arsenalinc.com/slr107cr/slr107cr_1.jpg

gunplumber
oh yeah baby!

I'd have it SBR'd in 10 seconds flat.

crackedwindshield
Whats the stuff on the barrel just in front of the front sight? I hope its not fake barrel for the last 5" if so that would be a stupid loss of velocity.

gunplumber
Whats the stuff on the barrel just in front of the front sight? I hope its not fake barrel for the last 5" if so that would be a stupid loss of velocity.


its a real barrel.

Since the gun is shorter than 16" in regular configuration, its too much of a hassel to sell it as a registered SBR.

So they sell it with a 16" barrel.

Since the front sight, not the barrel, is threaded for the brake, all and end user has to do is register it, chop the barrel, and replace the nut with a brake.

pickleweedpete
Yikes! Uh, you're looking well, Valmet. :uhoh_smal Okay, I suppose I'll have to get one of 108's too. When are they supposed to be available? By the way, I wish somebody would tell the guys at Arsenal that there's no law saying they've GOT to distribute their rifles through Lew Horton and those other places. Dammit to hell. I don't know about the rest of them but I think LH marks them up 25 or 30 percent.

Bret
Whats the stuff on the barrel just in front of the front sight?
Here's a picture of my 107CR with the thread protector removed. Yes, it will be SBR'd! :small_gri
http://www.gunco.net/gallery/data/500/SLR106CR_Gas_Block_and_Muzzle_Threads.jpg

Cartouche
Any full pics of the stamped Arsenals being shipped and what kind of money are we talking about.Are these 1.0, 1.5, or 1.6mm. Sorry for the ignorance but do they have threaded barrel, or do they have brakes already?

DeanD
I'm always interested in guns for sale.

That is because you are infected with gunititis. I have had it for years. :small_gri

tdbrown1969
I'm always interested in guns for sale.

That is because you are infected with gunititis. I have had it for years. :small_gri
heart races,hands get sweaty,get a little nervous excitment thrill going,mouth gets dry,eyes bug out of your head a little,wifes voice can't be heard,yep i think thats what i have gunititis,now i have an excuse to tell the wife it's only kept in remision by future purchases,tdbrown

DeanD
How is the 108 going to differ from the current stamped 7.62 Arsenal? I know it is made in Bulgaria (I think) but that certainly isn't a downer to me. Does the Bulgarian made stamped gun have a 14mm threaded barrel?

VALMET_M76
The only current stamped 7.62x39 is that 107cr.

The 108 will have the standard AKM muzzle threads of 14mm.

The 107A1s, which also have YET to be built, have the 24mm threads.

recon-1
Hey VALMET_76 what is this? Retirement date?
08/09/10 Be There

VALMET_M76
That's when we all go up to Oregon to visit DING and have a big partay.

VALMET_M76
Well, according to the chatter at the MIG/ETA forums that K-Var hosts there isn't going to be a SLR108 this year and maybe not next year.

Don't know why other than Arsenal seems to be run by morons.

Get your stamped AKMs some other way.

lsmurphy
Gunplumber,
IF you register an sbr and then sell it as an sbr does the buyer have any type of paperwork to do or can he just take posession? Is it easier this way for the buyer? If I send you an sbr and you do work to it can you register it?

Scott









its a real barrel.

Since the gun is shorter than 16" in regular configuration, its too much of a hassel to sell it as a registered SBR.

So they sell it with a 16" barrel.

Since the front sight, not the barrel, is threaded for the brake, all and end user has to do is register it, chop the barrel, and replace the nut with a brake.

gunplumber
an SBR transfers the same as a machinegun or silencer.

Cief Law enforcement officials local signoff, and $200 tax + application and 2 fingerprint cards to ATF.

After a couple months, the cancelled stamp comes back and the transfer can go through.

Must have a serial number to begin paperwork.

So on a gun like the 100 series, if YOU buy it, you can then do the paperwork (Form 1, tax paid manufacture by a non-SOT), keep posession of the gun during processing, receive approved form, and then cut the barrel or sub the work out to someone else. You must also engrave your city and state and name on the receiver or the barrel.

If you want me to register it, I take the gun, chop the barrel, register it on ATF Form II (Tax exempt manufacture) and then you fill out the exact same paperwork but this time a form 4 (tax paid transfer of NFA item). The difference is with a form 1, you retain posession of the gun during the process. If your form 1 is not approved, you keep the gun in title 1 configuration and can sell it OTC.

If I register it, and you are not approved, I can't return the gun to you.

So form 1 is beter I think.

There is no prohibition after approval of a form 1 to sub the work out to someone eles.

a machinegun cannot be removed from the NFA registry. You cannot "unmake" a machinegun. YOu can "unmake" an SBR by rebarreling it, and filing a notice with the atf that the gun is no longer an sbr. The problem, is that atf is not reliable for returning a note saying "we received your affirmation". I registered a FAL receiver as an AOW. 5 yearts, a dozen phonecalls and 3 letters they still won't respond with "we received your letter affirming fal receiver no longer an AOW". I also destroyed a machinegun, and 5 years later, a dozen calls and 3 letters later they still have not responding with any indication of "we received your letter verifying destroyal of nfa item"