Converting Ak's

[rain]

I need advice.

I'd like to get advice on A MAK-90, and a Maadi MISR.
I believe that the Maadi has MAK-90 innards, is this true?

What needs to be done to convert both to U.S. manufactured to allow both Pistol grips and also to use any (non U.S.) magazine without "fear".
Do either of these AK's have any U.S. manufactured parts on them?

If not, what needs to be done to make them compliant?
I assume that the trigger group and furniture parts are a must, perhaps the gas piston.
I assume that both use double hook triggers.
Help!!! What do I need to know?

Thanks.

[oldjarheadfart]

The best advice I can give you is to do some research on those questions on this and other boards. That question is asked 50 times a month, and people get tired of anwsering it. Do a little searching on the boards and you WILL find your answer.

OJF

[jimmieZ]

I, too, have a Maadi - MISR. It is my understanding it is ALL Egyptian - no US parts. You would need to add a US FCG (hammer, trig. sear) along with US butt stock and US pistol grip to be legal for what you want to do. If you cut off the "thread protector" on the end of the barrel, you will need to silver-solder a MB on. I did all of the above and am extremely please with the appearance and function. Tara B. (Centerfire Systems) has a great deal on US FCG.

Jim Z

[johnsopi]

If it's a x39 you can get fllower and floor plates from RPG
for 10 bucks for ten. I'll 2nd the FCG from Tara B. great deal, great service.

Paul I

[16r40]

the only MAADIs that have chinese parts in them are the MISR-90....and you will have to replace enough parts with US parts, so that you don't have more then 10 foreign parts total in order to put a pistol frip on it......


here is a list of parts

buttstock
handguard (upper and lower count as one part)
receiver
trunion
hammer
disconnector
trigger
pistol grip
bolt
bolt carrier
gas piston
floorplate
follower
mag body

[rain]

JimmieZ my Maadi has a turned down muzzle tip, no threads.
Was yours the same, or did it have threads beneath a cap?
If it was a turned down type, what did you do to attach a muzzle brake?
At the moment I'm thinking of having an adapter turned, and silver soldering it to a slant brake.

I've been learning as I've been going along. The MISR came with a (cheap), single hook U.S. trigger set, and a U.S. floor plate and follower.
I've been trying to make arrangements to get all the parts to make this O.K. to use with any mag.
I believe that I could use a double hook style based on comparing it to a MAK90 for reference. Probably a U.S. pistol grip, and a U.S. piston to round out the count.

[Packrat]

The MAK-90, and all the Norinco and PolyTech guns, used the double-hook trigger because they were built as AK-47s. The Chinese and Soviets were on the outs when the AKM was designed. But all you have to do is to cut a notch on the other side of the trigger cut-out and the same length.

You've got 16 parts in an AK (if you have a muzzle device and pistol grip. You can have 10, so you'll have to replace 6. If you don't have a muzzle device, then it's 15; if no PG, then it's 14. You can't count any part you add, and those added parts have to be US-made or the count goes up. The complete list, and some examples, is given in the RKBA and Legal Forum.

Most of the MAK-90s had the threads turned off (since they were in the US, in Customs warehouses, when the '89 ban was announced. Some of them, like the NHM-90 (not NHM-91, a different animal) had a tube screwed on then welded to the front sight. And there were all sorts of screw-ups--I knew a guy who had a MAK-90 with the FA auto-sear hole. He got it welded up before he was caught. There were quite a few guns that were underfolders, and had the stampings for the stock and the rear trunion that closed off the rear of the receiver. There were some modifications made to some of those guns, which were illegal, but possession of the modified guns wasn't. And the statute of limitations was 5 years, so the last of those got by almost 5 years ago. (The ones that weren't modified before Sept '94--tough, now it's illegal with NO statute of limitations, and possession of the (modified) guns is illegal. See, we hardly know what is legal; do you expect BATFE agents to? (There's even a theory that MAK-90s are semiautomatic assault weapons, and can have folding stocks, muzzle brakes, bayonet lugs, etc., that the pre-'89 ban guns can have. No one has ever got a verification from BATFE on it, though. You guys with these guns should get an opinion on it from Technical Branch. You might be able to do a lot more than you know to your rifles. :D