View Full Version : Romanian side folder Question?
05-02-2004, 01:55 AM
HEY YA'll !So the Romanian side folders advertised by FAC and others will drop right in on say a recently purchased SAR-1 or WASR without mods. or a gunsmith? NEW GUY! After the ban sunsets!
Well due to the fact that istalling one would be ILLEGAL I bet no one would know.
05-02-2004, 03:27 AM
OKIE,your right on about the current law.I'm looking forward to sept. when we may have a change and I'm wondering if this part will work as I'm trying to consider my options in an AK purchase.
05-02-2004, 03:55 AM
they are legal right now if you pin them open and disable the folding feature. Remove the pin after Sept and you have your folder. Never seen one in person, but they are supposed to fit all the European spec receivers, mounting block is supposed to slide in just like the front of a wood stock. Chinese use thicker steel, so would need to grind them a little to fit one of those.
05-02-2004, 04:08 AM
Hey Kernal, so they slide right on? You see it seems that prices on current sar-1 folders "welded" are higher than prices on wood stocked SAR-1's and WSAR's and I'm considering the purchase of my first AK on a budget.
05-02-2004, 12:39 PM
So does anyone know for sure out there,have any hands on wisdom about this part,or do I have to spend more money for a folder thats welded open now or just wait and buy a gun with a folder that works in Sept. or can I buy a wood stocked one now and convert it later? My hands are itchin for an AK but my wallets talkin at me!
Yes they just fit right on. I have a pinned one. I did have to make one small cut because a piece of metal was sticking out over where the block is for he pistol grip. But other than that evrything is cool.
05-02-2004, 01:26 PM
I have never seen one in person, but from the pics it looks like they slide into a standard rear trunnion and are secured by the top tang screws. Most other folders use a proprietary rear trunnion that has to be riveted in place. They are also advertised as being a drop in, and I see nothing in the pics to contradict this. if you disable the folding mechanism so that it requires tools to make it fold, it is legally a fixed stock. I have seen various folders "neutered" by drilling a hole thru both parts and inserting a roll pin, locking them together. You can also replace springs with spacers or pin the release button to lock it up as well. If you want one, I'd hurry up and buy the folder ASAP. Both Tapco and K-Var are out of stock.
05-02-2004, 01:53 PM
Thanks guys,now that I feel secure in buying a wood stocked AK in order to stop this thing with my hands,LOOK OUT WALLET HERE SHE COMES!!!
05-02-2004, 10:46 PM
That was alittle confusing but I think I understand. You want to buy the cheaper Sar with wood stocks and wish to add a folder at a later date. My Sar with a 2003 serial number came with a welded-open folder and it fits my other stamped receivers..if that helps. I had in my hands an unmolested folder at the gun show for $45. I goofed and let it there. :(
05-03-2004, 12:32 AM
Hey Lucky,sorry for any confusion but you got my exact intention as well as more info.for this newbie. I appreciate Ya! Tryin to avoid a purchase I might regret by gathering info. beforehand and you Guys are the best source I have! Thanks,CD
05-03-2004, 12:36 AM
There's no problem putting the Romanian sidefolders on any European stamped receivers. And if you replace the front screw with a long one, it blocks the release button so the stock cannot be folded (or unfolded, if that's the way you want it). It can't be released without removing that screw, and that requires a screwdriver, which is a tool. After (if) the ban sunsets, put the shorter screw back in, and you have a folding stock.
The Chinese receivers are thicker steel, so the space inside is smaller by 1mm (.040"). You could file, grind, or mill the Romanian stock down, but it would be work to get it done evenly.
05-03-2004, 12:44 AM
Sorry Gals, I keep sayin Guys but what I mean is Ya'll. So if theirs any Ladys here abouts, please I welcome your input! CD
05-03-2004, 12:59 AM
Thanks Packrat,the more ya'll talk the more I learn and can pass along as well.I know a local Importer here in Knoxville,Tn. maybe she can hook me up with an AK but if not theirs a big gun show end of May.
05-03-2004, 12:59 PM
What Packrat said.
The long screw blocks the release button quite well - if you didn't know better, you would never know it could be changed back so easily.
05-03-2004, 01:29 PM
Hey Torque, sounds good to me as I only have basic tools (hand tools) but I just love to tinker with a new toy! Thanks,CD
Harlan at FAC
05-03-2004, 02:29 PM
We also have available the Romanian side folding stock with a weld at the hinge area. These are price at $22.95, under p.n. ST1003.
05-03-2004, 03:23 PM
Hey Harlen,Thanks for the straight from the source info.!I found what seems to be a pretty good deal on a SAR-1 with a spot welded folder for $300.00 today! I've seen them going for 350.00-400.00 just about everywhere.Now I'm wondering if a spot weld would be a candidate for surgery with a dremel tool and a little touch up with some flat black paint and of course the longer screw to keep it open until the law permits! Any thoughts on that price and procedure? I value ya'lls input! CD
05-04-2004, 11:07 PM
If that SAR is pick-up (no shipping), that's about as good as you'll get. A lot of places are wholesaling them for that, and retail for near $400. I believe FAC has them cheaper, but then you've got to arrange for a dealer to receive it, and that's looking at near $400. I'd say, go for it.
And I'm not sure about the laws, but I'd just leave the weld in place for now. It won't take long to un-weld it, so might as well wait...
05-05-2004, 12:57 AM
Hey Packrat, 299.95+7.50 ship.+20.00 FFL-transfer=$327.45 signed ,sealed and delivered! It's in Oh. and I hang my hat in TN./ GOTCHA on the spot weld! Thanks,CD **** (Anybody got that FAC price handy?) ****
05-06-2004, 02:16 PM
Well,I ordered it!Should be here nxt.week! THANKS-to ya'll for your input,I'm sure I'll have more questions and maybe even some input of my own in the future!CD
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