I think Gunsnet may have tried to hack my computer at work!

[ZOID ZODIAN]

I think Goonsnet may have tried to hack my computer at work!

Note: There is a post at the end of this that explains things: added 02/21/05.

Just for some history: when I first logged onto Gunsnet as "Zoid Zodian", it was a way to goof off during my lunch time at work. The IP address used was one that, without spelling it out, said, "firstname.lastname@nameofcompany.com"

After all the controversy over being "banned", etc., I have never since that day tried to log onto Gunsnet from that IP address. I assumed it had been blocked also.

Today, while on my company's home page, I just happen to click the "History" icon of websites visited, and lo and behold, I see the link to Gunsnet listed as a site visited TODAY. Since I know that I haven't tried to visit their site, and no one else I work with even knows the links or cares about guns, I CAN ONLY CONCLUDE THAT THE ATTEMPT WAS MADE FROM THE OTHER SIDE.

In other words, the link to Gunsnet showed up on my History list because they have tried to hack into my computer.

Now, I'm not a computer expert, and I could be wrong, but here is my warning to a potential hacker from the Gunsnet side:

GUNSNET: IF YOU READ THIS THREAD HEED THIS WARNING

The original IP address with which I used to log on to Gunsnet forums is in the format of "firstname.lastname@nameofcompany.com", where the name of the company is two words, the first word beginning with the letter "J" .

This is a national company that has just spent a bundle of money to upgrade its computer security system. THE COMPANY MAINTAINS A POLICY OF PROSECUTING EVERY PERSON THAT ATTEMPTS TO HACK ITS SYSTEM.

So, have your fun for now. Soon you will be having fun as the wife of a convict covered with tattoos.

'Nuff Said.


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[JeffC]

Wow! :uhoh_smal

What the hell is their deal?

I am very leary of them too.....
I can't join them because my IP is banned also, and it says my login name 'JeffC' is already taken..... maybe I'm paranoid, but somethin stinks!

[16r40]

I seriously doubt those imbiciles can do something like that........ they have a challenging time by wiping themselves, and write coherent sentences. you're giving those morons too much credit.

[Don Galt]

IP addresses are dot seperated numbers, not email addresses.

I don't know why it showed up in your history, but probably because you or someone else went there.

[ZOID ZODIAN]

IP addresses are dot seperated numbers, not email addresses.

I don't know why it showed up in your history, but probably because you or someone else went there.
Several people have said this, and it sounds logical.

When it comes to computers, I'm like the AK newbie that doesn't know his gas piston is supposed to wobble!

The odd thing is that we are a store of six people, and no one else would have any need or desire to visit Gunsnet, not to mention the fact that no one else would know the link to their forums. My boss knows I visit gun websites; he doesn't have a problem with it as long as it's on my lunch hour.

That's why this whole thing is rather "odd." The thought crossed my mind that it's my boss "checking up on me," but I haven't visited Gunsnet since at least mid-March, so there shouldn't be any activity on the cookies as I thought my IP address at work was blocked as soon as I was "banned." In other words, I was permanently logged off and there would have been no reason for ANYONE to visit that website. My cookies would have not have shown any activity on a gun website for over a month. We all know how computers generate long lists of cookies, so if it was my boss checking up on me he would have had to really search through a hellaciously long list of cookies to find the last time I visited Gunsnet.

[JeffC]

[QUOTE=ZOID ZODIAN]Several people have said this, and it sounds logical.

When it comes to computers, I'm like the AK newbie that doesn't know his gas piston is supposed to wobble!

QUOTE]

AK newbie.......Hey that's me!

[kernal_panic]

ZOID ZODIAN04-21-2004 08:34 PMI think Goonsnet may have tried to hack my computer at work!

Just for some history: when I first logged onto Gunsnet as "Zoid Zodian", it was a way to goof off from work. The IP address used was one that, without spelling it out, said, "firstname.lastname@nameofcompany.com"

After all the controversy over being "banned", etc., I have never since that day tried to log onto Gunsnet from that IP address. I assumed it had been blocked also.

Today, while on my company's home page, I just happen to click the "History" icon of websites visited, and lo and behold, I see the link to Gunsnet listed as a site visited TODAY. Since I know that I haven't tried to visit their site, and no one else I work with even knows the links or cares about guns, I CAN ONLY CONCLUDE THAT THE ATTEMPT WAS MADE FROM THE OTHER SIDE.

In other words, the link to Gunsnet showed up on my History list because they have tried to hack into my computer.

Now, I'm not a computer expert, and I could be wrong, but here is my warning to a potential hacker from the Gunsnet side:

GUNSNET: IF YOU READ THIS THREAD HEED THIS WARNING

The original IP address with which I used to log on to Gunsnet forums is in the format of "firstname.lastname@nameofcompany.com", where the name of the company is two words, the first word beginning with the letter "J" .

This is a national company that has just spent a bundle of money to upgrade its computer security system. THE COMPANY MAINTAINS A POLICY OF PROSECUTING EVERY PERSON THAT ATTEMPTS TO HACK ITS SYSTEM.

So, have your fun for now. Soon you will be having fun as the wife of a convict covered with tattoos.

'Nuff Said.


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dude you seriously need to put down the bowl.

[ZOID ZODIAN]

Just doing my CYA, dude.

[8of7]

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What's this now Zoid...the 3rd or 4th forum you've been telling this sad story on?
Don't you realize how ridiculous you sound.
Probably not it would seem.

[kfranz]

:rofl_smal

[ZOID ZODIAN]

Laugh all you want. All I know is that I received some information that other people had complained of people at Gunsnet trying to harass them either with hacking or harassing e-mails. Since it's not just one person I concluded that where there's smoke, there's fire.

During the whole controversy over Gunsnet banning discussion of Arsenal and K-VAR, I received several private e-mails from people going into detail about some of their shenanigans. I promised those people who e-mailed me that I wouldn't publicly discuss what they told me, but let's just say that I would not put it past the Goonsnet people to attempt something like this.

Apparently they have a "beef" with people who signed on to Gunco.net, as they seemed to have been banning new members over there as fast as possible, at least for a while. People who use a different logon name, of course, aren't affected.

I'm beginning to agree that it's unlikely they may have tried something like "hacking" my computer at work; I'm not a computer expert and this happened right at a time when I was still getting e-mails from people. So I naturally thought it was a possibility.

[cannoneer]

Are you saying that they banned you because you mentioned K-Var? That would be really chicken poop.

[RICKI]

I also got banned for mentioning KVAR. Posted about KVAR ak74 kits being so great.KVAR is the best vender i have dealt with.Superior produts and service.

[Major Pita]

I'm not familiar with all of the controversy about Arsenal and K-VAR with Gunsnet. I surf as a guest over there and I remember a few threads back in March that just up and disappeared when people started to defend Arsenal and K-VAR.

I also remember a thread or two on another forum I surf occasionally where somebody other than Zoid Zoidan was complaining about harassing e-mails from the people at Gunsnet.

I don't know what relationship Zoid Zoidan used to have with them or if they would have any reason to harass him/her or not. I just know it's not the first time I've heard this and I always say, "Where there's smoke there's fire."

I also read some threads here or somewhere else where Zoid Zoidan was pretty unkind to the people at Gunsnet, calling them names and basically accusing them of some things, so maybe he pissed them off enough that they really did try to do something to get back at him/her.

Maybe the dudes at Gunsnet really are that petty and childish that they send harassing e-mails and try to hack people they're mad at. I just don't know.

[Sammoh]

Zoid,

You would most likely not have Gunsnet's url in your history if they had hacked you. Remember that it is they who are visiting your computer rather than you visiting their site. Therefore, the need for your computer to remember that site url in the history of sites you've visited is non-existant.

As Don said, ip addys are sets of numbers seperated by periods. What you stated was basically an email address which is quite different from an ip addy. They really can't hack you through email unless your company's got a POS for a firewall and your IS guys haven't been doing their jobs in patching your workstation properly. Even then, they (gunsnet) would not have left a signature for you to find in your history.

Though you haven't visited gunsnet since the middle of march, it is possible for your history to retain that address. The other thing is if you are using "autocomplete" options in MS Explorer, chances are, that website url is stored in the page file of your computer. Someone could come up and type www.gu (http://www.gu) and the rest would get filled in by Explorer. Easy enough for someone to get there.

Be warned then... It's most likely not gunsnet hacking you but you should be careful of a boss being unhappy that his employee is visiting guns forums... especially if said boss is an anti.

[ZOID ZODIAN]

Thanks for the reply Sammoh! The information you give has been the most useful and probably the most accurate.

I am the first to admit that I am not a computer expert. When it comes to computers I'm like the guy that can't figure out the first step to field-stripping his first AK, so I appreciate the education.

I also appreciate your constructive suggestions, as opposed to people whose only motivation seems to be to insult and make fun of other people. Everyone is a newbie at something, and I am the first to admit that my understanding of how computers work is about as extensive as finding an icon with the mouse. So other people's insults are very much not appreciated, but your input has certainly been valuable.

At this point, I think that it is probable that Gunsnet has NOT tried to hack my computer. I'm a computer newbie, and it seemed strange to show their website on my work computer's history when I know I haven't visited the site in weeks and no one else knows the address. I cleared the cookies a long time ago. Add to that the fact that my boss knows I visit gun sites and doesn't have a problem with it as long as I'm off the clock (at lunch or whatever). It just seemed unlikely at the time for someone at work to have visited a site that I was banned from and hadn't even tried to visit in several weeks.

Add to that the fact that I received a handful of e-mails from people basically asking if I was receiving harassing e-mails from who they suspected were Gunsnet people, and I just added two and two.

If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but I appreciate it when someone points it out in a constructive way instead of hurling insults and mocking comments.

What goes around comes around.

This may or may not be my last visit to this and a couple of other gun-related websites. I'm seeing more and more forum members who seem to delight in making sarcastic and insulting comments whether they have anything constructive to offer or not. Although I firmly believe in the right of free speech, I think some of the free speech I've been reading on this and a couple of other websites has made me decide not to participate anymore.

I know this doesn't apply to everybody, but when I first started participating in gun forums more than one person warned me that they're for people who don't have any friends any other way, and judging by some of the comments I've read on this and other forums, I can see why.

So, I may or may not visit this forum again. Peace Out.

[Grunt]

ZZ,

I am a computer expert (web application developer for Fed. Gvt) and your computer was not hacked given the evidence your "found". A page in your history does not indicate a hack and if they did do hack and wanted to go their site, it more than likely would use an open socket connect as opposed to a browser session.

The ip address you mention is an email address, not an ip. Your ip is the numeric domain address of your pc.

I wouldn't worry about it.

[thepanda]

Well its true I was band 3 times now (I have 10 deferent name and for all you ppl get proxy Jesus F amateurs ) gunsnet are sobs I gat kick for insulting admen’s homosexual partner but the never harass me and I don’t know if the can hack an AOL account let alone a corp fire wall the are mostly rednecks with minimum computer skills and the security thy themselves have is well lets say mediocre (basic bs that you can cute true under hour) also if the hack your comp the well not show on your history folder its completely deferent thing.

[Grunt]

Good points panda, well-put too.

[Sat_Cong]

It must be damned unwieldy to have to type with those marsupial paws. But coherent communication aside, you are sooooo... er, unreadable.
Sat_Cong

[Enigma102083]

Panda, I normaly have a great deal to say about the merits of AOL and the people who use it, or I should say the lack of merit. But, I think your post expressed all that is needed to be said on the subject.

[Grunt]

O jeez, what did I do; this is too funny...

[ZOID ZODIAN]

What I could not talk about when this thread was first posted is that the corporate office of the company I work for was conducting a somewhat secret investigation into some computer irregularities.

Each of our outlets has computers that communicate with our corporate office over the internet, as well as unlimited internet use. Out of all our outlets nationwide, apparently several hundred employees were visiting various websites, sending e-mails with questionable material, etc., the whole nine yards. I surfed chat forums on my work computer during my lunch hour. My boss had no problem with it. He does now.

During their investigation, our corporate computer people were actually visiting the websites that their employees were visiting in an attempt to find out the "content" of the websites visited by their employees.

The investigation was more-or-less very hush-hush, although our corporate people would admit that they were looking into "websites people are visiting." I found out secretly from some other corporate people some things the investigators didn't want me to know.

The investigators knew I had been visiting Gunsnet. They even knew my screen name. They had even been reading my threads. As a result, I had to be careful on this thread to NEVER NEVER admit that I knew the full extent of my company's investigation.

About this time one of our corporate computer people made an off-the-cuff remark, and, as a result I made some assumptions that turned out to be incorrect. I took a poor attempt at humor by one of my corporate computer people to be a serious remark, and away this thread went...

Although they were mainly looking for porn, and many employees lost their jobs because of it, they also visited all the gun websites of which I was a member. I did not know it until recently, but after hours some of them actually came in talked to my boss about some of the websites I had visited. Apparently, he told them about Gunsnet, and they visited the site from my computer. That's why Gunsnet showed up in my History file even though I knew I was no longer visiting the site. My boss and the investigators, of course, never told anyone until recently about their after-hours visit.

And that off-the-cuff remark that started this mess?

One of the members of our corporate office made the off-hand comment to me that "someone at one of your gun websites is trying to hack our system."

Not being a computer expert, I put two and two together. Infuriated beyond reason, I logged on and posted this now ridiculous-sounding thread as a way to vent my frustration.

At the time, I was just joining Gunco, and Gunsnet really really was apparently banning people who joined that website. I can't say if it's true or not; but many members of Gunco believed it.

Our company representative's poor attempt at humor (evidently he's anti-gun) was just too much of a coincidence for me to dismiss, so I started this thread to vent my frustrations at Gunsnet.

Now...

What REALLY happened. It took almost a year, but this company representative finally admitted that his poor attempt at humor was just an off-the-cuff remark. It turns out that the truth is our company was investigating spyware and adware from various websites on their computers nationwide, and "gun websites" had been listed as sources. I knew of the investigation, but not what they were looking for. Since I suspected they were reading my posts on the gun chat forums, I had to be careful not to let on how much of the investigation I knew about. But I wanted to vent my anger and maybe take the heat off myself.

The whole experience was stressful, although I ended up keeping my job...

Probably because, in my boss's words, "At least you weren't visiting porn sites."

I never found out the name of these so-called "gun websites" that downloaded spyware or adware. I don't even know if my computer was involved, or if that corporate representative might have been referring to a gun website accessed by somebody in Windshield Wiper, Idaho. I also don't know if Gunsnet was ever really involved.

Being tight-lipped about their investigation, no company representative of course admitted to logging on to Gunsnet from my computer until long after the investigation was finished.

I now no longer surf gun websites from work. Now that the investigation is over, and I get to keep my job, I can finally tell "THE REST OF THE STORY."

Gunsnet may very well be innocent of anything unethical or illegal, and I apologize for jumping to conclusions. My corporate office never would admit which gun sites had downloaded spyware or adware, if any.

[pickleweedpete]

Zoid,

Most of the people who replied to your posts with personal insults are new members, and, I might add, probably trash. Fuck them!

I doubt very much if those people have ever even heard of you before, but I know you as the author of some of the finest posts I've ever read on this or any gun site. This is the truth!

You, my friend, are the person who first piqued my interest in AK's last year (particularly those made by Arsenal of Nevada) and now I'm the owner of four. I was glad to see you'd come back to the AK boards a few weeks ago. I hope very much that you won't take your leave once again.

[ZOID ZODIAN]

Thanks for the kind words, Pete.

I felt it was important to set the record straight on this particular issue in light of my having new information.

I'm glad this episode is over and I felt that since I originally flamed Gunsnet unjustly that I should also make their innocence clear when new information came to light.