Health-friendly gun cleaners/lubricants?

[ZOID ZODIAN]

This weekend I was over at my Dad's house cleaning one of my rifles. I was using Break-Free which I've used since the mid-1990's. My Dad began to complain that the fumes from Break-Free were making him sick at his stomach.
I had to open the windows until the fumes went away.

Are there any health-friendly gun cleaners and preservatives out there? I've used Break-Free all this time because it works wonders, but I don't want to endanger my health or that of others.

Anybody know any "healthy" ones?:skull_cro

[DoubleA]

I use MPro7. This stuff doesn't have any fume/smell. It works well after soaking about a minute or so. For lubricant, I just use Valvoline 10w40 synthetic, no smell/fume that I can tell.

[Last_Mile2002]

I use MPro7 to clean and Tetra oil/grease to lube.

[Packrat]

AKs don't have close tolerances or high compression, so synthetic motor oil is not required. Plain 10w40 works fine.

It may not be health-friendly, but as long as you're not using corrosive ammo, diesel will clean it. (For corrosive ammo, you need a water-base cleaner to dissolve the corrosive salts and/or an alkaline (base) to neutralize them. Ammonia does both. I know several people who use Windex for cleaning up after seriously corrosive ammo, like WWII surplus 7.62x54R and 7.92 Mauser. Then you need a water-displacing protectant to get rid of the water, like WD-40. And finally you need a long-term protectant, which WD-40 isn't.)

[billshooter]

You guys gotta try FP-10 made by MPC in PA. It is the best cleaner / protectant out there. It smells like Cinnamin. Most of the high end USPSA shooters use it. The USPSA 3 gun champ Tony Holmes is one of their spokespersons. Once I tried it , I do not use anything else. Go to www.fp-10.com for info.

[Skilter]

G96... smells good, works good, and will not hurt polymer stocks like Breakfree can.

[ZOID ZODIAN]

G96... smells good, works good, and will not hurt polymer stocks like Breakfree can.
I've never heard of Breakfree hurting a polymer stock!

Which ones have you heard it hurts? And HOW does it hurt?

My Arsenal SA M7 AK's have had Breakfree spilled on them and have been hosed down with chemical degreasers with trichloroethylene without any perceived damage.

What stocks have you seen damaged by Breakfree and what are you calling "hurt?"

[Nickle]

I for one, don't like Break Free. My employer (Fed Gov't) may use, but I don't think it makes a good cleaner.

I try to use Sweet's 7.62 Solvent and Shooter's Choice. 2 wet patches of Sweet's, 1 dry patch, Brush w/ Shooter's Choice, 5 passes back and forth, dry patch Brush again (same as before), followed by 3 dry patches. I follow up with a wet patch w/ Break Free for Storage. It's not a bad oil, but by definition it can't be a lubricant and a solvent.

If you find a good cleaner, it will have drawbacks. All you can do is find something that works and hass flaws that you can live with.

[Skilter]

Hurt is defined by streaking or melting of polymer stocks. Most of the modern polymer stock sets don't get affected, but some of the older ones do as it is a pretty harsh solvent. For example, I used it on a 50.00 FN-FAL. I was spraying down the barrel, missed and it ran down the side of the forend. The polymer forend was streaked by the chemical (It made the black turn grey). Although this 50.00 is not a safe queen, I was still not real happy about it. I had used it several times on other polymer guns with no ill effect, but this time it damaged the forend so... no more breakfree for me.

[ZOID ZODIAN]

I was just wondering, because when I put my Arsenal SA M7's in storage, I coat them with Break Free, and yes, some does get on the stocks. I've never seen any discoloration or melting whatsoever!

In fact, I've used a chemical degreaser with tricholoroethylene on these stocks without any damage, either! This must be a tough plastic!

[JohnLewis]

another Vote for M-pro7 line of non toxic cleaners...Hoppe's will be selling Mpro7 under the name "Hoppe's ELITE"
the bore cleaner will take stuff out of a barrel previously cleaned with breakfree/hoppe's #9 that will make you go "Yuck, where did that come from?"
the military grade CLP they make isnt toxic like breakfree CLP and is made to a newer spec. Mpro is used by the Fedral Govt for 20mm vulcan cannons on F16's and the 25mm Hughes chain gun on AH64 helicopters/M3 Bradley AFV's

[Major Pita]

another Vote for M-pro7 line of non toxic cleaners...Hoppe's will be selling Mpro7 under the name "Hoppe's ELITE"
the bore cleaner will take stuff out of a barrel previously cleaned with breakfree/hoppe's #9 that will make you go "Yuck, where did that come from?"
the military grade CLP they make isnt toxic like breakfree CLP and is made to a newer spec. Mpro is used by the Fedral Govt for 20mm vulcan cannons on F16's and the 25mm Hughes chain gun on AH64 helicopters/M3 Bradley AFV's

Where do you buy it? I've never heard of it.

[JohnLewis]

MajorPita, you can buy it directly from the manufacturer at www.mpro7.com
This is really good stuff, that has basically no smell/fumes at all and you dont have to work in a well ventilated area with. the Hoppe's ELITE version is sold
by www.gamaliel.com or www.shootingsupplies.com and has the product code there of "HOP-GC8", "HOP-GO4", and HOP-BG4.........Hoppie's dont carry the military grade CLP under the ELITE line(best I can tell) you get that from Mpro
One neet thing is the Bore cleaner comes in a liquid OR a gel for which ever works best for your application.
As a breakfree CLP user for two decades...I became concerned with allegations that it can/does soak though your skin and damage nerve endings and you will have PFTE (teflon) in your bloodstream as a bonus. Needless to say, I got rid of all the breakfree.