iraqi 7.62x39 ammo

[dan]

how is the qualty of iraqi 762x39 ammo

[Okie]

I heard a lot of it was really poor quality, but thats all second or third hand info.

[Packrat]

Also hear-say, but I've heard it from several sources. I've also heard that the Iraqi-built firearms are very poor quality.

[Gun Wielding Maniac]

It depends. A lot of the ammo they have other there is imported from other countries. Saw a lot of Geco 9mm. It seems the Iraq's didnt care all that much whether or not they mixed and matched lots of ammo from differant countries. I picked up AK's with mags loaded with 6 differant manufactures of ammunition. A lot of the stuff is simply generic russian 7.62x39 in the green tins. But some of it is Egyptian, some Syrian and some domestic. I couldnt really tell you if the ammo was crappy, never got to test it.

I CAN say on the other hand that the domestically manufactured AK's I got to handle seemed to be well made. They call them the Tabuk over there. It looks exactly like a Hungarian AK. Comes in fixed stock models as well as underfolders. But there was a very wide variety of AK's to choose from. East German, Russian, Romanian, Chinese, Bulgarian, Polish, Yugo, take your pick. Milled receivers, stamped... Only AK's I didnt see over there were AK-74's. Surprisingly few RPK's as well.

[bill3542]

I had some iraqi 9mm a friend brought back from the first gulf war it was shit would not cycle the pistol half the time it went in the trash.

[Jeremy2171]

I CAN say on the other hand that the domestically manufactured AK's I got to handle seemed to be well made. They call them the Tabuk over there. It looks exactly like a Hungarian AK.
You mean Yugoslavian.

Most of the Tabuks are carbon copies of the Yugo MB70's and several even have Yugo made parts on them. Dunno if they were made in Yugoslavia for the Iraquis or imported in parts then assembled in Iraq but they seem to be identical with the exception of the markings.

[Packrat]

I've read that the Tabuks were made in Iraq on Yugo machinery. And some writers said they were good, others said they were crap. I suspect that earlier ones were good, but later (after first Gulf War?) quality deteriorated.

[eodinert]

Everything made in Iraq is crap, except Iraqi AK's, which we haven't established for sure if they are really made in Iraq. I don't think they are, because they are not crap (they are yugo, as stated above).

Iraqi ammo sucks. It will break your AK. If you shoot Iraqi ammo, and don't have a ruptured case extractor, you won't be shooting long. I was sorting a pile of ammo one day, and noticed that the rims on the cartriges were all of different thicknesses, ranging from paper thin, I can bend it with my fingernail to about twice the normal thickness. Also, at the case mouth there were many tears in the brass where the bullet was seated. Failure to fire (duds), and 'pop and no kick' were also common malfunctions. When we went to the range, we took twice as many AK's as we needed, to replace the ones that we knew would get ruptured cases stuck in the chambers.

I was thrilled to make it through a whole magazine without a malfunction, when shooting Iraqi ammo.

We found some Yugo ammmo, which was great. Any steel case rounds worked fine, we found russian and chinese. I personally did not find 7.62x39 ammo from any other countries.

Iraqi's don't like Iraqi ammo. Our interpreters were given weapons (when they started getting killed for working with the US). They did not want to carry Iraqi ammo.

My 2 pesos
Doug

[fredgustav1]

Reading this thread, I saw a posting that there were little or no AK-74's being used by the Iraqi's. Is this true ?

Do the Iraqi's not like the 5.45x39 round for some reason, or is it that they were just stocked up with 7.62x39 weapons ?

Sorry for the dumb question, and also sorry if this was answered somewhere else. What do you expect from a Navy guy anyway.

[Packrat]

Someone mentioned that they had found some 5.45x39 ammo, and inferred that there must be some AK-74s someplace. Didn't Ben Lauden carry a Krinkov? Maybe they kept some on hand for him. ;)

[eodinert]

It was me.

I found exactly one tin of 5.45 ammo in six months in Iraq. Never found a weapon chambered for it... found a lot of weapons...

[cyberdyne systems]

IRAQI ammo is "unreliable" better to buy Russian mfg.

[Nickle]

IRAQI ammo is "unreliable" better to buy Russian mfg.

Definitely! With all the CHEAP Wolf and Barnaul out there, this should be a dead subject, other than curiosity.

[Tengu]

I saw an entire pallet of Jordanian manufactured 7.62 x 39 in Iraq. It was brass cases and boxer primed and looked like decent ammo.

[greentimber]

All of it that I fired worked fine. A couple mags worth were field captured, the rest was new from storage.

[nf9648]

Where the hell are you gonna find Iraqi ammo stateside to shoot anyways? Are they importing it now? I dont know what manufacturer ammo I shot over there, but it still didnt go through a SAPI plate.