View Thread: tipping plate?


southern boy
before anybody starts screaming "illegal full auto conversion" read below.

very crude sketch, not to scale or finalized.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v402/indy_MuadDib/tippingplate.jpg

a plate, set right above the mag well, riveted loosely with 3 brass washers.

3 arms on the plate one going back to the trigger, one going to the fore most stop point of the bolt handle, one going to the rear most stop point of the bolt handle.

when the AK is fired the bolt slams back and hits the upper plate arm, forcing the plate to pivot and moving the lower arm away from the trigger, releasing it.

at the end of the bolts cycle it hits the front arm which forces the plate to pivot and squeeze the trigger.

one shot per trigger pull, legal within BATFE specs (currently)

is this legal?

Max-Guy
Your design uses the firer's trigger finger as a spring to keep pulling the trigger. It is probably legal, but I won't be the person to send a sample to ATF.

Get the timing right or trigger slap would be painful.

-- GLA

Max-Guy
I've been thinking about this for a few minutes now. What is supposed to keep you from pulling the trigger before the front tripping arm is engaged by the closing bolt carrier?

-- GLA

southern boy
its very rough design right now but the lower arm tilts off the trigger when the rear arm gets hit by the cocking handle, it wouldnt spring off the finger.

id put 2 pins up on either side if the trigger so all you would have to do is move the plate with your finger.

Max-Guy
I read a thread the other day about a shoelace being a machine gun. You're supposed to tie one end to the trigger and the other to the charging handle. The closing charging handle then uses the string to pull the trigger.

This has been ruled an illegal conversion by the ATF as I understand it. If your design trips the trigger by itself (instead of helping you to pull the trigger at the cyclic rate) it would be also illegal.

Look up the thread about the double tap trigger. THAT sounds really interesting.

-- GLA

allesennogwat
I read a thread the other day about a shoelace being a machine gun. You're supposed to tie one end to the trigger and the other to the charging handle. The closing charging handle then uses the string to pull the trigger.

This has been ruled an illegal conversion by the ATF as I understand it. If your design trips the trigger by itself (instead of helping you to pull the trigger at the cyclic rate) it would be also illegal.

Look up the thread about the double tap trigger. THAT sounds really interesting.

-- GLA


That's why I wear my old pre ban shoelaces to the range when I go shooting.They've been grandfathered.

Max-Guy
LOL. Good chuckler. But where did you get my grandfather's shoelaces?

-- GLA

glockgangsta
Is that a Romy Under folder?

southern boy
just a pic i dug up via googles image search, no clue what it is.