muzzle climb?

What kind of muzzle climb does a full auto AK-47 have?

Not bad actually. The slant brake did not seem to matter vs. a plain muzzle nut nor did a AK 74 'style' muzzle brake. Obviously my personal findings can and were disputed by lots of folks including the designers of the AK or they wouldn't have incorporated the slant brake!

Now I MUST add that I fire in bursts so my findings may be well off the mark. Suffice to say it was as easy to fire LONG bursts with 'about' the same accuracy as an M-16 equipped with a 'Birdcage' flash hider.

I once had a chance to fire an M-14 in full auto way back in like 1976 and after the third shot you were scattering bullets into the skyline.

AK74 videos

http://66.246.170.146/weps/ak74.wmv


http://66.246.170.146/weps/AKS-74U.wmv



http://66.246.170.146/weps/AKSU-02.mov

Hmmmm. Interesting. I'm in NY, how would i go about obtaining an automatic weapon?

Hey, i've seen clips of guerrillas firing Kalashnikovs sideways, is that to let the muzzle climb carry the gun across an area, like bandit shooting a pistol, or are they just 15 year olds with no training whatsoever?

from what ive heard, the ak jumps up and to the right, which does explain the slant cut facing that direction to compensate.

partymember, look on gooogle for legal ownership of class III weapons. Here's some info on that http://www.dndguns.com/c3faq.htm.

So, unlike the uninformed masses, there is NO license to own (just like your car). Btw, why is it that there is always some clown behind the shooter putting his hand on the man's shoulder like if the gun recoils that bad? I can see it if its a 5 yr old kid, but a man? Must be one wimpy soldier.

The AKM's I Shot in Iraq were nothing like a full auto M16A1, the AKM seems to be to damn light and jumpy on each initial pull of the trigger causing a fight to keep the muzzle down even when held tightly once you have the muzzle down during the process of full auto keeping on the trigger it seems to stabilize but when doing bursts 3-4 rounds it jumps all over the damn place. I can remember firing a FN FAL and it was alot more stabile even during bursts but seemed to resort to the weight factor again. Here's a vid from Iraq firing one of em.

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=3950689

The AKM's I Shot in Iraq were nothing like a full auto M16A1, the AKM seems to be to damn light and jumpy on each initial pull of the trigger causing a fight to keep the muzzle down even when held tightly once you have the muzzle down during the process of full auto keeping on the trigger it seems to stabilize but when doing bursts 3-4 rounds it jumps all over the damn place. I can remember firing a FN FAL and it was alot more stabile even during bursts but seemed to resort to the weight factor again. Here's a vid from Iraq firing one of em.

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=3950689

Try slinging one then see how ya feel.

I've shot FA Aks quite a bit, and you have to be ready for the recoil. Unless you brace yourself and lean into it, that thing is going up, up, up.

I like to just empty the freaking mag from the shoulder. You can forget about accuracy in FA, but you will get a great field of fire! :rofl_smal

It's like trying to stay on target with an NFL lineman shaking you as hard and as fast as he can.

Bursts are OK, but you still need to be ready for it.

If you aren't prepared, its going to climb with or without a muzzle break.

The AKM's I Shot in Iraq were nothing like a full auto M16A1, the AKM seems to be to damn light and jumpy on each initial pull of the trigger causing a fight to keep the muzzle down even when held tightly once you have the muzzle down during the process of full auto keeping on the trigger it seems to stabilize but when doing bursts 3-4 rounds it jumps all over the damn place. I can remember firing a FN FAL and it was alot more stabile even during bursts but seemed to resort to the weight factor again. Here's a vid from Iraq firing one of em.

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=3950689

Yep, that's about right. What was that, fifty yards?

Imagine shooting at targets 200-300 yards. You end up pretty much spraying lead over a football field if you empty the whole mag at once.

Was that you shooting the Ak over there Mac?

Hmmmm. Interesting. I'm in NY, how would i go about obtaining an automatic weapon?

Sorry, only options to leave NY.

You could join the New York Army National Guard. Most units qualify with machine guns once a year. Of course, military range operations take most of the fun out of it.

-- Max

Its not supposed to be fun. You stand there in combat gear listening (or not) to some guy preach most of the time. Then, you fall asleep waiting in line for your turn but they won't let you sleep. Now, if they do it in the winter, that flak vest is good for something. Keeps you nice and warm even if you are laying in the mud.

To Partymember (Ian waving hand and fingers in a Jedi mind control fashion), "There is no full auto in New York"

Get over it. We are in the state that sux the most. I just keep hoping that everyone will move out before I do, and by then it will improved enough, that I'll want to stay!

Ian

AK 7.62 Piece Of Cake, Tantal 5.45 FA A Dream Come True, HK 91 Get Out The Tent Pegs Momma :)

I just keep hoping that everyone will move out before I do, and by then it will improved enough, that I'll want to stay!

Ian

LOL, I hear that.

Unfortunately, it's the good people that are leaving. The ones on the public tit are going to stay.

-- Max

I have ta say that of all the FA's that have been in my hands,the absolute"worst" to control are the M-14 and G-3.it's akin to sittin on a jack hammer tryin to drink a cup o joe and not spill a drop..not gonna happen.but they are all a hoot to shoot..

Absolutely Ding but I'm going to give the Nod to the M14 as being in the running for the worst followed by a nose the G3. Big,Big men can't control them to any degree when trying their hardest. Ah but the Tantal what a delight :love_smal

Agreed john,that's why I named the 14 first.I did blast the E-3 model.the tantal I have not shot FA but plenty of 7.62 and 5.56 stuff,hell even 9 mike and 45 FA.In a perfect world having an infinite supply of ammo and any FA conceivable in your hands would be the dream..even just to test em all everyday.the BAR is a tuff cookie too.

with the price of x39 i dont think i coud afford to feed an auto Kalashnikov anyway

Partay,if ya can afford a FA,you can afford the food for it..:rofl_smal

Ding the BAR, almost forgot had one Saving Grace Weighing In At 18.5 Lbs and the Selectable Low/High Rate Of Fire gave it some controlability.

But not a Garden Party Pedigree for a summer's day of T-Shirt Blastin ;)


Party just a case FA and you'd start to come up with ways to Feed Your New Habit :o After that it is off to Betty Ford :finger_wa

yeah most shoulder fired FA's are hard to keep on target.the most controlable for me was the steyr AUG.I could literally write my name with it.my fav in 45 cal was the grease gun.somethin about the kathunk kathunk kathunk it had.someday our weapons designers are goin to go back to the drawing board and get in between the large and small calibers and end up with something like the germans did in WW2 with the Stgwr 44.

muzzel climber's,in order for me:

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s215/M-70AB2/1922m14b.jpg
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s215/M-70AB2/896fna.jpg
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s215/M-70AB2/1775hka.jpg
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s215/M-70AB2/barjane.jpg

Dang Ding! ( :D ) Are those yours?

holy fuck, dude...

oh yeah, i want a Stg. 44 real bad. I bet that 7.92x33 is a mean motherfucker of a cartridge.

Full auto AKs are hard to control for me. I can't keep a group on the target period. Maybe with some experience I'd do better. This is on a ChicCom milled ak with no compensator.