Please Help!

[bayoushooter]

Hey guys, I know this isn't a mosin nagant forum but i m hoping a few of you guys own these, and maybe ran into this problem before. I recently picked up a Chinese Mosin Nagant M53, and there appears to be a plug in the very center of the barrel. I took a cleaning rod and hammered out a solder like piece of metal, but there is still a thin ring of what appears to be solder obstructing the barrel. I can't find any inf online, please someone point me in the right direction, thanks.

[Trueno]

Local 'smith with a button-rifler?

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[Ding]

Lucky ya found it this way than firing it first.......Have you tried using a brush to take it out.Yeah sounds as though a button swage got left in it...for some unknown reason.You might try the brush or the bare end of the aluminum rod to push the rings out or a jag.

[bayoushooter]

Lucky ya found it this way than firing it first.......Have you tried using a brush to take it out.Yeah sounds as though a button swage got left in it...for some unknown reason.You might try the brush or the bare end of the aluminum rod to push the rings out or a jag.

Button swage? The majority of the obstruction is out but there appears to be a thing ring still in there. I tried a jag, and the alluminum rod, but they just slip off the edge. I was thinking about dropping a drill bit down the barrel and trying to tap it out but don't want to damage anything, thanks.

[RG Coburn]

If you still have the solder-like slug you took out,put a torch onto it and get a feel for how much heat will melt it. If its not too trribly hot,I'd likely apply heat at the point where the remaining slug is in the barrel,and then run a stainless steel brush immediately thru it. Kinda like what you do to re-use a copper fitting wth old solder still on it. If it is just a soft material,if you get the majority out,I expect the rest will shoot itself out.

[Rforbus]

That is unusual to say the least. I've seen souvenir bring-backs with welded chambers and/or cross-drilled barrels. It seems as if someone purposely did it to sabotage the rifle and injure its shooter, or tried a crude way to slug the barrel. Hell, it could have been left over from someone's experiment.

Wow - good topic to remind people to thoroughly check an acquired firearm before shooting.

[bayoushooter]

If you still have the solder-like slug you took out,put a torch onto it and get a feel for how much heat will melt it. If its not too trribly hot,I'd likely apply heat at the point where the remaining slug is in the barrel,and then run a stainless steel brush immediately thru it. Kinda like what you do to re-use a copper fitting wth old solder still on it. If it is just a soft material,if you get the majority out,I expect the rest will shoot itself out.

Bingo, that's exactly what I'm going to do. A friend just identified the slug as lead. Hopefully only a little will be needed to liquify the remaining ring of lead. Any insight as to why this was done in the first place?

[bayoushooter]

That is unusual to say the least. I've seen souvenir bring-backs with welded chambers and/or cross-drilled barrels. It seems as if someone purposely did it to sabotage the rifle and injure its shooter, or tried a crude way to slug the barrel. Hell, it could have been left over from someone's experiment.

Wow - good topic to remind people to thoroughly check an acquired firearm before shooting.

Yea its got me stumped.. The rifling looks fine from both ends, up to the lead ring. Instead of it coming out in one solid piece, I was able to punch a hole through it with my cleaning rod. The heat should do the trick, I'm taking the barrel assembly to a local gunsmith tomorrow for a second opinion on the heat idea.

[A-Rok]

Bingo, that's exactly what I'm going to do. A friend just identified the slug as lead. Hopefully only a little will be needed to liquify the remaining ring of lead. Any insight as to why this was done in the first place?

Since the majority of Nagants have seen a TON of action over the years, and have been manufactured by several different armories with extreme variations in quality, guys that reload 7.62x54R will slug their barrels with lead to determine exactly what the dimensions of the barrel are so they can select an appropriate bullet to load for it. I've heard of Nagant barrels ranging anywhere from .307" to .314". When accuracy is the name of the game, you don't want a .308" bullet rattling down a .314" barrel!

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinSlug.htm

[bayoushooter]

Guys I was able to get it out. I found a drill bit that fit snug in the bore, dropped it down the breech end and it butted right up against the obstruction, and beat on that with my cleaning rod & hammer. Now that the piece is out, I can't tell what the hell it is. Ill try to post pics.

[radkoch]

Is it possible it was a barrel jacket or portion and that was some melted lead in the barrel?

[a-kmanator]

broken case ?