Norinco 56S

[Andy]

I have noticed that nobody talks about Norinco 56S. Why? Is there no Norincos in america or do you know the gun on some other name?

[MacThomas]

A 56S is a REAL assault weapon. Full auto. Doubt if anyone here actually has one; I don't know if any were actually (legally) imported, however.

Mac

[Packrat]

There were some pre-ban Norincos marked "56S"; like the other pre-bans, they didn't have the 3rd hole in the receiver and FA sear, but were the same as the military otherwise. I've seen one, and a HMK-90 that had the underfolder receiver and was converted to 56S. If you can use the underfolder stock, they're nice rifles.

[Andy]

A 56S is a REAL assault weapon. Full auto.
Mac

Well. I can tell you that it is not. I know because I have one.

[MacThomas]

You're 100% correct, Andy, and I'm full of doggie doo-doo. I just looked it up, and sure enough, the Type 56-S is a Norinco product based on the military Type 56-2 and restricted to semi-auto. My bad.

Mac

[Andy]

There is an axel of auto sear in my Norinco. Is that reason why there is no much of Norincos in USA?

[Ugh]

There are lots of Norincos in the US. I'd say they are probably the most common AK's here in the US.

[Andy]

Why there is so little conversation about it. With keywords Norinco 56S I found four topics about it and two of them were my own messages.

[Packrat]

Andy, the autosear axel, or even the holes for one, makes the rifle a Class III (full-auto). Yours had better not have one. Are you sure you aren't looking at the center brace? And if you aren't, I would still say I was--BATFE are not understanding, and don't care about where you got it.

[Archivist Dick]

Packrat, SILE of NYC imported a number of Type-56Ss that were military rifles save for two mods.

First, the disconnector sear had its tail lopped off. Second, an elongated selector switch stop was installed.

But the rifles were waved in by U.S. Customs fitted w/ milsurp bolt carrier assemblies, full auto trip sears and that third axis pin.

I've examined three samples of these legal imports. Figuring they weren't worth the bother of a legal tangle, I passed and never did buy a SILE-brand import.

Still, they're out there. Most blokes haven't a clue what they own. Most LEOs don't either. Perhaps it is better that way.

Look long enough, Packrat, and you'll come across one of these jewels. Only do be careful. They're in the states legally, only ...

[Andy]

Packrat. I have the axel of auto sear in my gun. I have also a supressor on the muzzle. I have even had a gun with auto sear. It is legal because the only law here is the law of Finland and BATF have no power in here.

Full auto guns are here allowed only for advanced collectors. Some guns (for example open bolt semi auto SMG:s) are also "too easy to converse full auto", but the limits are not as strict as in US.

[Packrat]

Sorry, Andy, I forgot you were in Finland where the laws are backward, just not a backward as the US. (Unsupervised 16 year-olds can operate 3 tons of steel, but private citizens can't have such threats as a rifle with bayonet lugs on it.)

I didn't say that there weren't AKs out there with the 3rd hole, only that BATFE considers the presence of the hole to make the rifle a Class III. There were a lot of firearms that came in with illegal configurations. That won't do you a bit of good if you are charged with owning one. I seem to have a collection of snitches who keep trying to catch me on something illegal with AKs in particular, so I'm a little paranoid.

[Ought Six]

I have a SILE-imported Norinco underfolder, and I see no holes for the autosear axle in the action. Does anyone have some pictures and/or graphics clearly showing the autosear axle or holes in the receiver where that part mounts? If so, posting them to this thread as a link or attachment would be greatly appreciated.

[guns an planes]

i just got one. i was with a friend who ponied up $1,100 for an unfired one, although it was out of the box and on a gunshop wall.
he put about 400 - 500 rounds through it, and i scooped it up for $850 clams.
i tried to post pics, but alas, the file size is a hair too big.
i'm trying to find some good info, but the pickings are slim so far.
just looking for simple stuff, year made based on serial number, number imported, etc.